*****The Jared Wiley Thread*****

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by JPH83

Meant to add that but yep, kinda roll it into the character bracket but you're right they're different. The similarity is that for character and injury/illness it's people not accepting what their eyes are telling them I guess, that X player IS a lunatic or injury prone. In the case of Kittle it's teams believing their eyes over their imagination "I've only seen X block, I haven't seen them receive so I'll assume they can't".

Yeah - I'll call Kittle a clear scouting win. Among the few.

I mean the 49ers immediately incorporated him into the passing game. They absolutely saw something the rest of the league didn't.

Let's also remember, though, that they took CJ Beathard in the 3rd, Joe Williams in the 4th and Trent Taylor in the 5th before Kittle. Even THEY didn't see this.

Sometimes it's blind dumb luck. There were clearly teams that needed TEs who could've easily snagged him while they were putting their hopes in Joe Williams at RB. If they thought he was going to be 1/2 the player he's been, they take him in the 3rd. They didn't.

Oh, and they took Solomon Thomas at 3rd overall when they needed a QB and let Mahomes slide to us in that same draft. So I'm not gonna act like they've unlocked the secrets of the draft. They haven't.

They're okay at it. Most teams are only okay at it. And with Kittle they get some credit for seeing more than most, but they also got pretty damn lucky.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah - I'll call Kittle a clear scouting win. Among the few.

I mean the 49ers immediately incorporated him into the passing game. They absolutely saw something the rest of the league didn't.

Let's also remember, though, that they took CJ Beathard in the 3rd, Joe Williams in the 4th and Trent Taylor in the 5th before Kittle. Even THEY didn't see this.

Sometimes it's blind dumb luck. There were clearly teams that needed TEs who could've easily snagged him while they were putting their hopes in Joe Williams at RB. If they thought he was going to be 1/2 the player he's been, they take him in the 3rd. They didn't.

Oh, and they took Solomon Thomas at 3rd overall when they needed a QB and let Mahomes slide to us in that same draft. So I'm not gonna act like they've unlocked the secrets of the draft. They haven't.

They're okay at it. Most teams are only okay at it. And with Kittle they get some credit for seeing more than most, but they also got pretty damn lucky.

Yep. That's the thing with a steal I guess. It's largely luck. Most teams are making plenty more f*** ups than they are drafting Kittles. Including the 49ers.