Chiefs Rumor: Creed & Butker getting new deals - Page 2

Dante84 · 07-30-2024, 07:39 AM

Can you take me higher? The Kansas City #Chiefs will be making Creed Humphrey the highest paid Center in the coming weeks and kicker Harrison Butker will be getting a new deal too #ChiefsKingdom #RickeyDoesntDoPoliticsSoDontAsk pic.twitter.com/tQWCcVw8AX
— Rickey (@prettyrickey213) July 30, 2024

**PHOG** · 07-30-2024, 08:41 AM

Good for them (and us). Now add Bolton and make it so.

tredadda · 07-30-2024, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrobProng

Nice. Hopefully "Rickey" isn't just making stuff up.

Ricky doesn’t make up things.

FloridaMan88 · 07-30-2024, 08:50 AM

Obviously Butker is a no brainer... arguably one of the most vital parts of the Chiefs dynastic run after Mahomes, Kelce, and Chris Jones.

Only argument against paying big $$$ to Creed is the Chiefs successful track record in drafting/developing centers and does this leave less cap room to keep Bolton.

DJ's left nut · 07-30-2024, 08:54 AM

Both Creed and Butker made too much sense to not get done this offseason.

Both of those guys can/should/will re-set the market. So just go get it done. There's no sense in acting like you're gonna get some screaming bargain on either of them. We know the market will be there for them if they get to FA and we know what it will be. It'll be the last best deal inflated by increases in the cap.

If this isn't done with those 2 by the start of the regular season, it's because the Chiefs have decided that neither position is worth spending the money on.

Now as for Bolton - that's a guy that they are probably going to have to let get to the market. I think he sees himself in the Fred Warner tier and he's just not demonstrated that.

He's gonna want Tremaine Edmunds money ($18+ million/season) to re-sign without testing the market and I think he's more akin to Oluokun at $10 million/yr. It would be a mistake for him to take, say, 4/$44 million without testing the market to see if he could get 4/$72. So I think that's what you have to let him do.

Let him test the market and see what happens. That just doesn't seem like a deal that's likely to get done.

JohnnyHammersticks · 07-30-2024, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Bwillie is about to kill himself once Creed gets paid

Why would he do that? This just keeps his streak of never being right about anything alive and intact.

DJ's left nut · 07-30-2024, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

The APY of Creed and Butker are going to be what Trey Smith gets next year in FA. Crazy

Yeah, I love Smith. Great attitude, good bit of nasty to have on the line. Smart, physical player and a real nice complementary part on the OL.

But this is a passing team and he's more of a road-grater of an IOL. He's just not quite the right fit. He has more value to a team like the Titans or Ravens or even 49ers than he has to us.

I think we have to mentally prepare for him moving on. It just doesn't make sense for this team to pay $20 million to an OG. Especially when said OG isn't a premier pass protector.

O.city · 07-30-2024, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, I love Smith. Great attitude, good bit of nasty to have on the line. Smart, physical player and a real nice complementary part on the OL.

But this is a passing team and he's more of a road-grater of an IOL. He's just not quite the right fit. He has more value to a team like the Titans or Ravens or even 49ers than he has to us.

I think we have to mentally prepare for him moving on. It just doesn't make sense for this team to pay $20 million to an OG. Especially when said OG isn't a premier pass protector.

Especially when you've got Thuney on the other side.

tredadda · 07-30-2024, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Especially when you've got Thuney on the other side.

Isn’t this the last year of Thuney?

DJ's left nut · 07-30-2024, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Especially when you've got Thuney on the other side.

Only have Thuney for 1 more year in all likelihood. And any contract can be made palatable for a season.

But we've said for years that sooner or later Mahomes will have to do more and more as his contract gets more and more expensive. And some of those sacrifices have obviously been made with his weapons. The next may well be on the IOL.

I've actually been pretty shocked by the Chiefs willingness to cut corners at OT given Reid's history with the shell concept. But I feel like this may be similar to how they've handled WR over the next year or two. They'll look for solid veteran stopgaps while dedicating additional resources in the draft to rebuilding the depth chart.

Honestly I still wonder if that's not why they're seemingly opposed to Wanya Morris at LT - I think they really would like to see him take over for Smith at RG. And I think that would be a pretty nice little move for KC.

**Tribal Warfare** · 07-30-2024, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Odd photo choice...

It's the scoop sensation "prettyricky" the guy from South America who was pissing off Schefter and Rapoport.

O.city · 07-30-2024, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Only have Thuney for 1 more year in all likelihood. And any contract can be made palatable for a season.

But we've said for years that sooner or later Mahomes will have to do more and more as his contract gets more and more expensive. And some of those sacrifices have obviously been made with his weapons. The next may well be on the IOL.

I've actually been pretty shocked by the Chiefs willingness to cut corners at OT given Reid's history with the shell concept. But I feel like this may be similar to how they've handled WR over the next year or two. They'll look for solid veteran stopgaps while dedicating additional resources in the draft to rebuilding the depth chart.

Honestly I still wonder if that's not why they're seemingly opposed to Wanya Morris at LT - I think they really would like to see him take over for Smith at RG. And I think that would be a pretty nice little move for KC.

The LT thing though....I don't think they necessarily want to cut corners. They did the OBJ thing, they wanted to pay whats his dick from the 9ers, they paid Taylor, etc.

The biggest key for all this to keep working is....you've gotta just keep nailing drafts. Which hell.....they honestly may have just figured out.

cmh6476 · 07-30-2024, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Odd photo choice...

maybe they feel like the players are robbing banks with this deal

**RealSNR** · 07-30-2024, 09:13 AM

Oh Rickey you're so fine you're so fine you blow my mind

KingPriest2 · 07-30-2024, 09:16 AM

How? Where’s the money?

We have 15 mil this season and 13 for next

Hog's Gone Fishin · 07-30-2024, 09:18 AM

I'd think Creed is more replaceable that Trey Smith but I want them all back anyway.

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07-30-2024, 08:41 AM	#16
PHOG Dazed and Confused Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Somewhere Out There Casino cash: $-1719500	Good for them (and us). Now add Bolton and make it so.
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07-30-2024, 08:50 AM	#18
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07-30-2024, 08:54 AM	#19
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-710901	Both Creed and Butker made too much sense to not get done this offseason. Both of those guys can/should/will re-set the market. So just go get it done. There's no sense in acting like you're gonna get some screaming bargain on either of them. We know the market will be there for them if they get to FA and we know what it will be. It'll be the last best deal inflated by increases in the cap. If this isn't done with those 2 by the start of the regular season, it's because the Chiefs have decided that neither position is worth spending the money on. Now as for Bolton - that's a guy that they are probably going to have to let get to the market. I think he sees himself in the Fred Warner tier and he's just not demonstrated that. He's gonna want Tremaine Edmunds money ($18+ million/season) to re-sign without testing the market and I think he's more akin to Oluokun at $10 million/yr. It would be a mistake for him to take, say, 4/$44 million without testing the market to see if he could get 4/$72. So I think that's what you have to let him do. Let him test the market and see what happens. That just doesn't seem like a deal that's likely to get done. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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