***Official 2024 STL Cardinals Thread ***

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Any idea how likely it is that Marlon gets canned? And who could replace him? Maddon? Francona? Beltran? Shrek?

I don't think it really matters given how poorly the organization is run. If you can't develop and scout your players, you're dead in the water.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't think it really matters given how poorly the organization is run. If you can't develop and scout your players, you're dead in the water.

So, Shrek it is then.


On a slightly more serious note, it's sad to see how far STL has fallen in terms of being able to scout/develop talent. Used to be a strength.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

So, Shrek it is then.


On a slightly more serious note, it's sad to see how far STL has fallen in terms of being able to scout/develop talent. Used to be a strength.

When your owner cares more about money than winning he hires people that will make him the most money. That GM hire doesn't need to be a good evaluator of players, how to develop players none of that baseball stuff.

Then you have the GM who will only hire yes men. You have a different opinion better keep it to yourself or you'll be fired even if you are the manager of the year.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

When your owner cares more about money than winning he hires people that will make him the most money. That GM hire doesn't need to be a good evaluator of players, how to develop players none of that baseball stuff.

Then you have the GM who will only hire yes men. You have a different opinion better keep it to yourself or you'll be fired even if you are the manager of the year.

I'm one of those weird people that thinks winning makes more $$ though.

But that actually takes work and diligence.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

When your owner cares more about money than winning he hires people that will make him the most money. That GM hire doesn't need to be a good evaluator of players, how to develop players none of that baseball stuff.

Then you have the GM who will only hire yes men. You have a different opinion better keep it to yourself or you'll be fired even if you are the manager of the year.

Which gets back to a previous point I've made a hundred times:

How does setting literally a quarter of a billion dollars on fire for Dexter Fowler, Andrew Miller, Brett Cecil, Greg Holland and Mike Leake help make him money? How do ridiculously silly early extensions for guys like Matt Carpenter, Lance Lynn, Carlos Martinez and Miles Mikolas help in that pursuit?

All the money thrown at aging players like Goldschmidt and Arenado only to act surprised that aging curves exist? How does that help DeWitt make money?

Mozeliak DOESN'T help him make money. He does nothing more than any one of us ****-knuckles could do. He doesn't find undervalued assets. He trades guys like Arozarena and Gallen at the bottom of their value for less effective and/or more expensive assets. His scouting department is a tire fire.

He doesn't do ANYTHING that would help Bill DeWitt win baseball games OR make money.

Why the **** is he still employed? It just makes zero sense to me.

When the best signings on your ledger over the last decade or so are a catcher who can't actually field his position and a couple of old pitchers who might barely be worth what they're making by pitching at league average (and that's certainly all you can reaosnably expect of them) then you really have no business running a major league baseball team.

This organization has won, what, 2 playoff games in the last decade? There's just no excuse for this malaise.