*****The Jared Wiley Thread*****

[RockChalk]

Originally Posted by O.city

Rookie TE's don't really happen.

It's ok, just let him learn.

I would not say that's completely accurate. They can succeed right away in the right situation. Here's a few from last year and over the last 5 years.

Sam Laporta: 86 rec, 889 yards, 10 TDs
Dalton Kincaid: 73 rec, 673 yards, 2 TDs

Kyle Pitts: 68 rec, 1,026 yards, 1 TD (how the hell did he only have 1 TD?)

Evan Engram: 64 rec, 722 yards, 6 TDs

Noah Fant, TJ Hockenson, and Irv Smith all had pretty decent rookie years in 2019, as well.

Historically, you're correct. But over the past years, that has become a position that more and more teams are focused on in college, and it's translating to better "ready to play" TEs coming into the leage.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RockChalk

I would not say that's completely accurate. They can succeed right away in the right situation. Here's a few from last year and over the last 5 years.

Sam Laporta: 86 rec, 889 yards, 10 TDs
Dalton Kincaid: 73 rec, 673 yards, 2 TDs

Kyle Pitts: 68 rec, 1,026 yards, 1 TD (how the hell did he only have 1 TD?)

Evan Engram: 64 rec, 722 yards, 6 TDs

Noah Fant, TJ Hockenson, and Irv Smith all had pretty decent rookie years in 2019, as well.

Historically, you're correct. But over the past years, that has become a position that more and more teams are focused on in college, and it's translating to better "ready to play" TEs coming into the leage.

Most don't do what LaPorta did and come in fully formed as an in-line TE, though.

Move TEs do seem to be a little more common than they used to. Makes me think Bowers may be more impactful as a rookie than Mayer was. But Mayer had a pretty solid season as a rookie 'traditional' TE in his own right.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Most don't do what LaPorta did and come in fully formed as an in-line TE, though.

Move TEs do seem to be a little more common than they used to. Makes me think Bowers may be more impactful as a rookie than Mayer was. But Mayer had a pretty solid season as a rookie 'traditional' TE in his own right.

Bowers is probably going to do fine, the Raiders don't have all that much and yes he's probably going to essentially be a slot.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Bowers is probably going to do fine, the Raiders don't have all that much and yes he's probably going to essentially be a slot.

12 personnel should be pretty effective for them.

Though they probably should've held onto Jacobs if they intended to feature it. Hard for me to get two worried about Zamir White/Alexander Mattison.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by RockChalk

I would not say that's completely accurate. They can succeed right away in the right situation. Here's a few from last year and over the last 5 years.

Sam Laporta: 86 rec, 889 yards, 10 TDs
Dalton Kincaid: 73 rec, 673 yards, 2 TDs

Kyle Pitts: 68 rec, 1,026 yards, 1 TD (how the hell did he only have 1 TD?)

Evan Engram: 64 rec, 722 yards, 6 TDs

Noah Fant, TJ Hockenson, and Irv Smith all had pretty decent rookie years in 2019, as well.

Historically, you're correct. But over the past years, that has become a position that more and more teams are focused on in college, and it's translating to better "ready to play" TEs coming into the leage.

In fairness most of the above were first round picks or high seconds and a lot on bad teams without a lot of competition at that position.