Deshaun Watson to Browns

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Which, realistically, they already had to do.

This looks to me like an effort to push as much of his money as possible into his void years in 2027 and 2028 before having to take their medicine then while trying to open their window as wide as possible from '24 through '26.

I mean they have a $37 million cap charge for a 32 year old Myles Garrett on a void year in '27. They're looking at a complete tear down in 2 seasons anyway. Might as well do what you can before that time gets here.

Oh holy shit. I just saw the numbers on over the cap. I don’t know if it’s updated or not. But basically have $99m dead money in 2025 (so he will be impossible to cut). But he’s due $72 million of base salary in 2025 AND 2026. At best they have an out in a few years assuming they eat 2 years of absurd contract. But they can’t do that without cutting their entire team. im guessing they’ll be restructuring throughout the contract and each time they do that the back years become guaranteed.

This contract is so rough that they’ll probably have to either take a year or 2 where they pay him record high money. Or is it possible by the end of the contract they’ll be forced to extend the contract a few more years just so they can spread the cap charge out even more.

All for a guy whose arm may be too dead to even make it through this year let alone for 4+ years

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Oh holy shit. I just saw the numbers on over the cap. I don’t know if it’s updated or not. But basically have $99m dead money in 2025 (so he will be impossible to cut). But he’s due $72 million of base salary in 2025 AND 2026. At best they have an out in a few years assuming they eat 2 years of absurd contract. But they can’t do that without cutting their entire team. im guessing they’ll be restructuring throughout the contract and each time they do that the back years become guaranteed.

This contract is so rough that they’ll probably have to either take a year or 2 where they pay him record high money. Or is it possible by the end of the contract they’ll be forced to extend the contract a few more years just so they can spread the cap charge out even more.

All for a guy whose arm may be too dead to even make it through this year let alone for 4+ years

Again, they're looking at eating shit in 2027. Nothing else makes sense.

Garret, Watson and Delpit will be responsible for $80 million in cap charges ON VOID YEARS. Denzel Ward will be cut for a $20 million cap savings but still carry $9 million in dead money. And that's without getting into the smaller deals.

Za'Darius Smith, Dalvin Tomlinson, Njoku, Bitonio, Teller, Conklin, Thornhill, Wills, Okoronkwo and Pocic will all be in ther early/mid 30s (so long gone) and between those guys they'll suck up ANOTHER $40 million in dead cap on void years.

$120 million in dead cap charges on void years in 2027. Yeah - that's real.

And they have no business extending a single one of those players I named. So that money is all but locked in. Even if the cap continues to rise at a solid clip, that's likely to be 1/3 of their entire cap allocated to void seasons for guys that aren't likely to be on the roster.

So let's say the cap is $300 million by then, they're going to start at $180 million BEFORE they absorb the dead money from Denzel Ward. If they don't have substantial carry-over, they'll be looking at needing to build a roster on about $3.5 million/player at a time when the minimum NFL salary is likely to be approaching $2 million. Made all the more difficult by the fact that Jerry Jeudy and JOK will take up another $20 million between the two of them. So they'll have $160 million to pay for 51 guys on the roster.

They're ****ed in 2027. So they have to make things happen now.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Again, they're looking at eating shit in 2027. Nothing else makes sense.

Garret, Watson and Delpit will be responsible for $80 million in cap charges ON VOID YEARS. Denzel Ward will be cut for a $20 million cap savings but still carry $9 million in dead money. And that's without getting into the smaller deals.

Za'Darius Smith, Dalvin Tomlinson, Njoku, Bitonio, Teller, Conklin, Thornhill, Wills, Okoronkwo and Pocic will all be in ther early/mid 30s (so long gone) and between those guys they'll suck up ANOTHER $40 million in dead cap on void years.

$120 million in dead cap charges on void years in 2027. Yeah - that's real.

And they have no business extending a single one of those players I named. So that money is all but locked in. Even if the cap continues to rise at a solid clip, that's likely to be 1/3 of their entire cap allocated to void seasons for guys that aren't likely to be on the roster.

So let's say the cap is $300 million by then, they're going to start at $180 million BEFORE they absorb the dead money from Denzel Ward. If they don't have substantial carry-over, they'll be looking at needing to build a roster on about $3.5 million/player at a time when the minimum NFL salary is likely to be approaching $2 million. Made all the more difficult by the fact that Jerry Jeudy and JOK will take up another $20 million between the two of them. So they'll have $160 million to pay for 51 guys on the roster.

They're ****ed in 2027. So they have to make things happen now.

Yeah, they’re ****ed. And in their win now phase they have a qb with a noodle arm and a game changing rb who may not be able to even make an impact in 2024. Can’t help but feel awful for browns fans. Although I know they at this point take joy in misery

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Yeah, they’re ****ed. And in their win now phase they have a qb with a noodle arm and a game changing rb who may not be able to even make an impact in 2024. Can’t help but feel awful for browns fans. Although I know they at this point take joy in misery

Worse than the arm is the completely inexplicable decisionmaking for a veteran QB.

He's seen too much football to still be making the throws he's making. He has some positively Winston-Esque looking interceptions. Balls where he just stares into the eyes of the defender and throws it right into the guy's chest. Worse still, he barely even looks downfield anymore. He's not a risk to make a big play but he's still a threat to throw a mind-blowing interception at any time.

He's a damn mess.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Worse than the arm is the completely inexplicable decisionmaking for a veteran QB.

He's seen too much football to still be making the throws he's making. He has some positively Winston-Esque looking interceptions. Balls where he just stares into the eyes of the defender and throws it right into the guy's chest. Worse still, he barely even looks downfield anymore. He's not a risk to make a big play but he's still a threat to throw a mind-blowing interception at any time.

He's a damn mess.

Yeah it’s a weird thing. On the one hand stefanski runs a system that doesn’t need Watson to think too much and where he can bail out by running. On the other hand it doesn’t give Watson the chance to chuck up prayer balls where an elite WR like Hopkins can bail him out. So that’s an issue. He seems like a faster version of Daunte culpepper whose entire career was built around jump balls and athleticism.. But by far the most damning is that even in stefanskis system if you watch his throws he’s throwing dead arm 5 yard outs into the dirt.

The browns defense and running game are so good that they didn’t need as much from any qb. The irony is now they’re saddled with a qb who now can’t execute even a basic offense yet still sucks up lots of cap