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Old 09-04-2024, 03:00 PM   #1
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Well I guess no better time than tomorrow to see how the DL looks, will be interesting to see how things go. I'm not personally very fond of the work they've done on the DL but they've mostly gotten by so far and have clearly found a way to mask what IMO is still the weak link on the defense, so hopefully that will continue to be the case.
Edge play is more critical against the Ravens than IDL play, IMO.

Setting the edge, holding contain and forcing runs into the LBs (and keeping them fairly clean) is critical. All the DTs need to do is be big.

The Ravens took some hits on their OL this off-season so we'll see how things go there. Ultimately it wouldn't surprise me if they hurt us more through the air than on the ground. Or through conventional hand-offs to Henry.

I think the offense is gonna look quite a bit different for them this year.
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Old 09-04-2024, 03:20 PM   #2
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Edge play is more critical against the Ravens than IDL play, IMO.

Setting the edge, holding contain and forcing runs into the LBs (and keeping them fairly clean) is critical. All the DTs need to do is be big.

The Ravens took some hits on their OL this off-season so we'll see how things go there. Ultimately it wouldn't surprise me if they hurt us more through the air than on the ground. Or through conventional hand-offs to Henry.

I think the offense is gonna look quite a bit different for them this year.
Dont disagree but they look particularly bad up the middle. Vorhees? Falalele? Wasn't Linderbaum nursing an injury. If we get some joy I'd imagine it'd be there.
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Old 09-04-2024, 04:28 PM   #3
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Dont disagree but they look particularly bad up the middle. Vorhees? Falalele? Wasn't Linderbaum nursing an injury. If we get some joy I'd imagine it'd be there.
If I'm Spags, both Williams AND Watson get a fair bit of run Thursday.

McDuffie would spend a lot of time in the slot to try to prevent quick-hitters (I figure they'll have Flowers in the slot a bit to free up his release and get him in short areas as quickly as possible). I'd have Danna/Karlaftis barely even trying to get upfield; just holding the edge and trying to keep Jackson in the pocket.

Then I have Jones feast with Wharton alongside him on passing downs and Pennell taking up most of the 1st/2nd down snaps to try to absorb as much contact from Henry as possible.
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If I'm Spags, both Williams AND Watson get a fair bit of run Thursday.

McDuffie would spend a lot of time in the slot to try to prevent quick-hitters (I figure they'll have Flowers in the slot a bit to free up his release and get him in short areas as quickly as possible). I'd have Danna/Karlaftis barely even trying to get upfield; just holding the edge and trying to keep Jackson in the pocket.

Then I have Jones feast with Wharton alongside him on passing downs and Pennell taking up most of the 1st/2nd down snaps to try to absorb as much contact from Henry as possible.
Think we’re gonna see some snaps from Cam Thomas too. He’s built a lot like Karlaftis and can work well on stunts, run defense and holding the edge. Wouldn’t be shocked to see a few snaps from Herring too when the starters need a breather.

Boy am I already bracing myself for the inevitable Felix hate post game bc that guy might get 5 snaps max
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Think we’re gonna see some snaps from Cam Thomas too. He’s built a lot like Karlaftis and can work well on stunts, run defense and holding the edge. Wouldn’t be shocked to see a few snaps from Herring too when the starters need a breather.

Boy am I already bracing myself for the inevitable Felix hate post game bc that guy might get 5 snaps max
Oh god, I wouldn't even have FAU active.

Lets set aside for a moment whether or not I think he's worth a shit and just presume that he IS a capable NFL rotational player.

This team is a TERRIBLE matchup for him. About as bad as they come.

I just don't think he's even playable in this game. Maybe you dress him for a handful of 3rd and 7+ plays here and there where you push Danna inside for a NASCAR package, but I'd STILL be playing Cam Thomas on the other side of Karlaftis in that set.

I just don't see any utility in FAU against the Ravens.
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Oh god, I wouldn't even have FAU active.

Lets set aside for a moment whether or not I think he's worth a shit and just presume that he IS a capable NFL rotational player.

This team is a TERRIBLE matchup for him. About as bad as they come.

I just don't think he's even playable in this game. Maybe you dress him for a handful of 3rd and 7+ plays here and there where you push Danna inside for a NASCAR package, but I'd STILL be playing Cam Thomas on the other side of Karlaftis in that set.

I just don't see any utility in FAU against the Ravens.
Definitely agree with his a poor match up being he struggles to set an edge.
It'd have to be the most obvious of obvious passing situations before he see's the field even then he likes to rush wide to the passer and gets washed out. Thats an absolute no no playing Lamar.
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If I'm Spags, both Williams AND Watson get a fair bit of run Thursday.

McDuffie would spend a lot of time in the slot to try to prevent quick-hitters (I figure they'll have Flowers in the slot a bit to free up his release and get him in short areas as quickly as possible). I'd have Danna/Karlaftis barely even trying to get upfield; just holding the edge and trying to keep Jackson in the pocket.

Then I have Jones feast with Wharton alongside him on passing downs and Pennell taking up most of the 1st/2nd down snaps to try to absorb as much contact from Henry as possible.
I like the sound of all of this. Stop the run, take Flowers out if the equation, get them to obvious passing downs and flood their IOL with speed and power. Wouldn't hate Danna and Karlaftis swinging in for Turk on some of those passing downs.
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I like the sound of all of this. Stop the run, take Flowers out if the equation, get them to obvious passing downs and flood their IOL with speed and power. Wouldn't hate Danna and Karlaftis swinging in for Turk on some of those passing downs.
Like I said in another thread - the wrinkle may just be that Baltimore simply uses power sets and tries to bully the ball up the chute.

Nnadi sucks and Jones is indifferent in run support for the most part.

You go out there with 22 personnel and Ricard at FB and just try to hammer the shit out of the interior, you might get some traction. Then you run some play fake and loft it on a deep post to Flowers hoping that you catch Reid still trying to knock the rust off or something.

I could see the Ravens just trying some old-school shit; ground and pound and deep play-action shots.
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Like I said in another thread - the wrinkle may just be that Baltimore simply uses power sets and tries to bully the ball up the chute.

Nnadi sucks and Jones is indifferent in run support for the most part.

You go out there with 22 personnel and Ricard at FB and just try to hammer the shit out of the interior, you might get some traction. Then you run some play fake and loft it on a deep post to Flowers hoping that you catch Reid still trying to knock the rust off or something.

I could see the Ravens just trying some old-school shit; ground and pound and deep play-action shots.
It's probably the sensible route, and the one they should've stuck to against us last year. That's their identity and that's our relative weakness. I think the question is really whether Vorhees and Falalele are worth anything as run blockers either. Probably gonna be their strength but doesn't mean it's above average. That IOL is...let's saw, raw.
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