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Old 09-05-2024, 05:15 AM   #1
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Having just gone through a job search, I can definitely attest that AI has made things a bit of a mess. HR departments made applicants' lives miserable by moving to applicant tracking systems and some version of keyword/AI ranking over the past 5-10 years. That was a pain, but now applicants have their own AI help in ChatGPT in the like, making it relatively easy to tailor your resume to a job application, so now all of those ATS's are ranking tons of people highly who might not actually be all that qualified - they're just good at gaming the system.

I managed to find a job through a combination of that and actually reaching out to the hiring manager to introduce myself. I think all sides are starting to lose faith that the current system is functioning efficiently.
So am I understanding it properly that you plug into chat GPT Make me a resume for this job description?

And then the hiring managers are using an AI tool to select resumes based off this job description?

So any applicant NOT using AI is certainly not to get selected?

And it's been my (albeit limited) experience that job descriptions rarely represent the actual job.

That does seem to be a Pioli-esque tirefire.
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Old 09-05-2024, 06:37 AM   #2
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Having just gone through a job search, I can definitely attest that AI has made things a bit of a mess. HR departments made applicants' lives miserable by moving to applicant tracking systems and some version of keyword/AI ranking over the past 5-10 years. That was a pain, but now applicants have their own AI help in ChatGPT in the like, making it relatively easy to tailor your resume to a job application, so now all of those ATS's are ranking tons of people highly who might not actually be all that qualified - they're just good at gaming the system.

I managed to find a job through a combination of that and actually reaching out to the hiring manager to introduce myself. I think all sides are starting to lose faith that the current system is functioning efficiently.
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So am I understanding it properly that you plug into chat GPT Make me a resume for this job description?

And then the hiring managers are using an AI tool to select resumes based off this job description?

So any applicant NOT using AI is certainly not to get selected?

And it's been my (albeit limited) experience that job descriptions rarely represent the actual job.

That does seem to be a Pioli-esque tirefire.
Big opportunity for well-ran companies that put out the effort and do the leg work to get good applicants that will eventually be employees.

Lazy companies lean on AI for applicants, and they will pay the price.
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Old 09-05-2024, 08:45 AM   #3
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So am I understanding it properly that you plug into chat GPT Make me a resume for this job description?

And then the hiring managers are using an AI tool to select resumes based off this job description?

So any applicant NOT using AI is certainly not to get selected?

And it's been my (albeit limited) experience that job descriptions rarely represent the actual job.

That does seem to be a Pioli-esque tirefire.
That's over-simplified, but you've got the gist. Keyword stuffing has been a recommended approach for a while now, but it was always time-consuming for an individual to do.

I wouldn't say you could just tell ChatGPT to generate a resume for a job from scratch, but my approach was to feed it a job description, then feed it my resume, then ask it what keywords were missing. I could ask it to suggest words I could change to improve my match rate and things like that. I didn't ever take its suggestions directly, but I used it extensively to help me know what kinds of tweaks I could make, then made the ones I thought fit my style.

However, I was going for the low(ish) volume, high probability approach. For someone in a field like software engineering where people are applying to hundreds of jobs, I have no doubts that some people literally feed it a job description, feed it a rough resume, and ask it to spit out something that will score well in the ATS.
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