***Official 2024 STL Cardinals Thread ***

[DJ's left nut]

Watching the presser this afternoon, one thing really does stand out ---

I absolutely hate these mother****ers.

Every last one of them.

The fact that Bloom will sit up there with these pricks makes me hate him by association.

You can all eat shit. All of the shit.

[Ocotillo]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Watching the presser this afternoon, one thing really does stand out ---

I absolutely hate these mother****ers.

Every last one of them.

The fact that Bloom will sit up there with these pricks makes me hate him by association.

You can all eat shit. All of the shit.

At least the Giants canned Farhan Zaidi today even though his replacement is a total shot in the dark (Buster Posey). The Giants probably wish they would have kept Scott Harris.

I don't understand why they wouldn't just promote Bloom and can both Mo and Girsch. This tippy toe around the problem is surely going to be a massive failure.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Ocotillo

At least the Giants canned Farhan Zaidi today even though his replacement is a total shot in the dark (Buster Posey). The Giants probably wish they would have kept Scott Harris.

I don't understand why they wouldn't just promote Bloom and can both Mo and Girsch. This tippy toe around the problem is surely going to be a massive failure.

Mozeliak actually stepped on BDW mid-answer.

That's the dynamic.

They aren't firing Mozeliak because BDW is checked the **** out, BD3 is a clueless child and Mozeliak calls his own shots these days.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Mozeliak actually stepped on BDW mid-answer.

That's the dynamic.

They aren't firing Mozeliak because BD3 is checked the **** out and Mozeliak calls his own shots these days.

I view it as Mo falling on his sword knowing next year is not going to be good and to give Bloom a fresh slate.

Which I don’t mind.

Personally would’ve hired someone else than Bloom as he’s guilty by association and he got a horrible return for Mookie.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

I view it as Mo falling on his sword knowing next year is not going to be good and to give Bloom a fresh slate.

Which I don’t mind.

Personally would’ve hired someone else than Bloom as he’s guilty by association and he got a horrible return for Mookie.

He was never gonna set the world on fire with the return for Betts, especially when he had the edict from ownership to trim payroll so he had to include Price in the deal.

They gave up quite a bit of prospect capital with including Price in the trade. And greatly reduced the number of teams willing to make the move because most don't have the financial wherewithal to eat Price's contract.

So with fewer potential trade partners and a massive financial liability in tow, they weren't gonna get a haul for Betts.

And frankly, Connor Wong is a pretty good player.

But yeah, Jeter Downs looks like a bust.

Sometimes when a deal is that mediocre from the jump, it says more about the player than the deal. I argued this very point when I said that the Cardinals didn't 'fleece' anyone on the Goldschmidt or Arenado deals. When all the trading team can get for their star player is a pile of mediocre prospects, that means NOBODY in the league was willing to step up with a top 25 sort of guy.

I think his hands were tied in the Betts deal and the league knew it. So he just couldn't develop a market for him.

That all being said - **** him anyway for hitching his wagon to these guys.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He was never gonna set the world on fire with the return for Betts, especially when he had the edict from ownership to trim payroll so he had to include Price in the deal.

They gave up quite a bit of prospect capital with including Price in the trade. And greatly reduced the number of teams willing to make the move because most don't have the financial wherewithal to eat Price's contract.

So with fewer potential trade partners and a massive financial liability in tow, they weren't gonna get a haul for Betts.

And frankly, Connor Wong is a pretty good player.

But yeah, Jeter Downs looks like a bust.

Sometimes when a deal is that mediocre from the jump, it says more about the player than the deal. I argued this very point when I said that the Cardinals didn't 'fleece' anyone on the Goldschmidt or Arenado deals. When all the trading team can get for their star player is a pile of mediocre prospects, that means NOBODY in the league was willing to step up with a top 25 sort of guy.

I think his hands were tied in the Betts deal and the league knew it. So he just couldn't develop a market for him.

That all being said - **** him anyway for hitching his wagon to these guys.

I know his hands were tied because Henry wanted to cut payroll, but that doesn’t excuse the shit return he got.

Either way, this is a signal that the Cardinals want to be more like the Rays and Brewers than the Dodgers and Astros. Investing in minor league infrastructure while reducing MLB payroll is a bullshit way of saying we aren’t winning shit and weren’t going to win shit and don’t feel like spending as much as we can to have a contending product.