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Old 11-19-2024, 12:00 PM   #1
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I don't know what the fix is there other than to tell a QB who very blatantly does not trust his OL that he has to trust his OL.
Some of those are on the OL. Ed Oliver beat the shit out of Trey Smith all night long.

That pass to Hendershot was 5 OL and a RB vs 4 rushers. You can’t lose that badly in those situations.

It’s been a problem all year. Look at the last 3 weeks. Interior pressure has been happening at a high rate as well and that didn’t happen last year.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:03 PM   #2
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Some of those are on the OL. Ed Oliver beat the shit out of Trey Smith all night long.

That pass to Hendershot was 5 OL and a RB vs 4 rushers. You can’t lose that badly in those situations.

It’s been a problem all year. Look at the last 3 weeks. Interior pressure has been happening at a high rate as well and that didn’t happen last year.
When they get beat on the interior it's gonna be game over, Wanya is basically a guard playing OT because that's the spot we're in.

If stuff like this continues the only way you can really offset this is to start going to more base personnel like base from 2003. A bunch of 2 TE or 2 RB sets and not sending everyone into routes, handing off a bunch, using the screen game. Occasional PA deep shot, I know that isn't exciting at all but trying to get 5 into every pass pattern may not be wise at the current time.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:07 PM   #3
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When they get beat on the interior it's gonna be game over, Wanya is basically a guard playing OT because that's the spot we're in.

If stuff like this continues the only way you can really offset this is to start going to more base personnel like base from 2003. A bunch of 2 TE or 2 RB sets and not sending everyone into routes, handing off a bunch, using the screen game. Occasional PA deep shot, I know that isn't exciting at all but trying to get 5 into every pass pattern may not be wise at the current time.
I often wonder why they don't start having Pat play half of the time under center and utilize PA etc
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:10 PM   #4
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I often wonder why they don't start having Pat play half of the time under center and utilize PA etc
Because they are stubborn and want to run their offense...

I honestly think if they would come out and show a bunch of base under center stuff, run the ball, do screens, 3 step drops, slants etc it would make defenses play us a alot differently.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:21 PM   #5
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Because they are stubborn and want to run their offense...

I honestly think if they would come out and show a bunch of base under center stuff, run the ball, do screens, 3 step drops, slants etc it would make defenses play us a alot differently.
They can still run their offense just do it under center more. Teams have to respect Kareem now even though he is not explosive he is still very productive so lean on that and do more PA.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:22 PM   #6
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Some of those are on the OL. Ed Oliver beat the shit out of Trey Smith all night long.

That pass to Hendershot was 5 OL and a RB vs 4 rushers. You can’t lose that badly in those situations.

It’s been a problem all year. Look at the last 3 weeks. Interior pressure has been happening at a high rate as well and that didn’t happen last year.
IMMEDIATELY the first thing I noticed.

Sweet jesus, Trey Smith got WORKED. I mean just mauled. You don't see Chris Jones routinely handle a guy as frequently as Oliver kicked the shit out of Smith.

But yeah, lets keep blaming the OTs and Matt Nagy when the guy we have folks saying we should sign at a 'discount' of only $18 million in AAV is getting treated like a street free agent.

Man - that's just gross.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:25 PM   #7
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IMMEDIATELY the first thing I noticed.

Sweet jesus, Trey Smith got WORKED. I mean just mauled. You don't see Chris Jones routinely handle a guy as frequently as Oliver kicked the shit out of Smith.

But yeah, lets keep blaming the OTs and Matt Nagy when the guy we have folks saying we should sign at a 'discount' of only $18 million in AAV is getting treated like a street free agent.

Man - that's just gross.
It's weird to see a dude regress in his contract year.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:53 PM   #8
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IMMEDIATELY the first thing I noticed.

Sweet jesus, Trey Smith got WORKED. I mean just mauled. You don't see Chris Jones routinely handle a guy as frequently as Oliver kicked the shit out of Smith.

But yeah, lets keep blaming the OTs and Matt Nagy when the guy we have folks saying we should sign at a 'discount' of only $18 million in AAV is getting treated like a street free agent.

Man - that's just gross.
Why are the two mutually exclusive? Matt Nagy is also not all that good.
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IMMEDIATELY the first thing I noticed.

Sweet jesus, Trey Smith got WORKED. I mean just mauled. You don't see Chris Jones routinely handle a guy as frequently as Oliver kicked the shit out of Smith.

But yeah, lets keep blaming the OTs and Matt Nagy when the guy we have folks saying we should sign at a 'discount' of only $18 million in AAV is getting treated like a street free agent.

Man - that's just gross.
Yup, and there is no way in hell I'm paying Trey 20 million plus after this year. NO thanks. We could get as much out Allegretti as Trey has given us lately.
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