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Old 11-23-2024, 05:35 PM   #1
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Looks like you may want to look up Mahomes’ 2021 QBR too.

There is nothing unusual about his regular season performance not being MVP level at this point.


Bud, this is his worst QBR as a starter (not counting 2017) with the exception of the 2021 season. And starting with Succ%, just run straight across those stats; he's either worst of his career, or 2nd to worst in every statistical category.

Succ%-2nd to worst,
Lng (which I could care less)-worst
Y/A-tied worst
AY/A-WORST
Y/C-worst
Y/G-worst
Passer Rate-worst
QBR-2nd worst
NY/A-WORST
ANY/A-worst

And, he's on pace to get sacked more this season than in any other season of his career. Also his %/games with an INT makes him 39th @80%.

His overall play is a problem. And it's not just one thing. He needs to get his shit back together over the next few weeks.
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Bud, this is his worst QBR as a starter (not counting 2017) with the exception of the 2021 season. And starting with Succ%, just run straight across those stats; he's either worst of his career, or 2nd to worst in every statistical category.

Succ%-2nd to worst,
Lng (which I could care less)-worst
Y/A-tied worst
AY/A-WORST
Y/C-worst
Y/G-worst
Passer Rate-worst
QBR-2nd worst
NY/A-WORST
ANY/A-worst

And, he's on pace to get sacked more this season than in any other season of his career. Also his %/games with an INT makes him 39th @80%.

His overall play is a problem. And it's not just one thing. He needs to get his shit back together over the next few weeks.
His QBR is literally better than it was last year (and was better than it was in 2021 until his most recent game). What happened last year when the playoffs began again?

Why am I supposed to care about any of this?
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Old 11-23-2024, 05:46 PM   #3
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His QBR is literally better than it was last year (and was better than it was in 2021 until his most recent game). What happened last year when the playoffs began again?

Why am I supposed to care about any of this?


Dude, QBR isn't an end-all be-all stat, and you know it. It can be as misleading as PR game-to-game. Something I'm certain you're aware of as well. But hey, if you want to stick your head in the sand, go right ahead. Doesn't matter to me. The important thing is that Pat knows he's effed up. And I'm sure he does.
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Old 11-23-2024, 05:49 PM   #4
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Dude, QBR isn't an end-all be-all stat, and you know it. It can be as misleading as PR game-to-game. Something I'm certain you're aware of as well. But hey, if you want to stick your head in the sand, go right ahead. Doesn't matter to me. The important thing is that Pat knows he's effed up. And I'm sure he does.
He’s playing better than he did last year at the same point in time. He ended up having arguably the best postseason run by a quarterback in NFL history.

Yeah, I’m just fine with “sticking my head in the sand” on this one.
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He’s playing better than he did last year at the same point in time. He ended up having arguably the best postseason run by a quarterback in NFL history.

Yeah, I’m just fine with “sticking my head in the sand” on this one.

"He's playing better . . .?"

Uh huh. Because his QBR says so? Got it.
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"He's playing better . . .?"

Uh huh. Because his QBR says so? Got it.
A significantly better QBR.

It’s better than whining about a QB not throwing for big passing numbers on a low possession running team without any context whatsoever. Because I can’t think of anything I could give a shit about less.
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A significantly better QBR.

It’s better than whining about a QB not throwing for big passing numbers on a low possession running team without any context whatsoever. Because I can’t think of anything I could give a shit about less.


"Context"?

Wtf are you talking about, cuz? I think you need to look up the meaning of that word.
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He’s playing better than he did last year at the same point in time. He ended up having arguably the best postseason run by a quarterback in NFL history.

Yeah, I’m just fine with “sticking my head in the sand” on this one.
There is no way he's playing better this year. Last year we had the most drops in NFL history since like 2017. They catch those it looks alot different last year during the regular season.
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There is no way he's playing better this year. Last year we had the most drops in NFL history since like 2017. They catch those it looks alot different last year during the regular season.
QBR takes the drops into account. He is playing better than last year from an efficiency perspective. The counting numbers just aren’t there because of the low possession-run based offense.
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QBR takes the drops into account. He is playing better than last year from an efficiency perspective. The counting numbers just aren’t there because of the low possession-run based offense.
Please advise exactly how QBR is calculated.
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Bud, this is his worst QBR as a starter (not counting 2017) with the exception of the 2021 season. And starting with Succ%, just run straight across those stats; he's either worst of his career, or 2nd to worst in every statistical category.

Succ%-2nd to worst,
Lng (which I could care less)-worst
Y/A-tied worst
AY/A-WORST
Y/C-worst
Y/G-worst
Passer Rate-worst
QBR-2nd worst
NY/A-WORST
ANY/A-worst

And, he's on pace to get sacked more this season than in any other season of his career. Also his %/games with an INT makes him 39th @80%.

His overall play is a problem. And it's not just one thing. He needs to get his shit back together over the next few weeks.
Pats aggressiveness rating, eg throwing into tight coverage, is also worst of his career.
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Pats aggressiveness rating, eg throwing into tight coverage, is also worst of his career.
Maybe we should look to trade him for Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. They have the guts we need in the regular season.
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