What is wrong with Mahomes' deep ball?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Offense hasn't been the same without Rice.

They haven't overcome that loss yet.

Moving your all pro guard to play tackle is going to effect the run game.

Reid said that was Caliendo's first full game at guard.

That said, with the lead and the game winding down, running the ball takes more time off the clock. Even if you don't get a first down.

Thankfully the D/ST's are playing really well.

Eh I don’t know about that. When rice was here mahomes developed tunnel vision. And our offense was built around long dink and dunk drives. It worked end of last year but we make too many mistakes on offense for this to be sustainable. If we trust in veach he knew the best way to unlock Mahomes again was to get him some speed threats. That’s why he brought in not 1 but 2 speed threats. I like rashee as a player more than Hollywood, but Hollywood was the loss that really hurt.. for the time being given mahomes’ current issues

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Eh I don’t know about that. When rice was here mahomes developed tunnel vision. And our offense was built around long dink and dunk drives. It worked end of last year but we make too many mistakes on offense for this to be sustainable. If we trust in veach he knew the best way to unlock Mahomes again was to get him some speed threats. That’s why he brought in not 1 but 2 speed threats. I like rashee as a player more than Hollywood, but Hollywood was the loss that really hurt.. for the time being given mahomes’ current issues

Losing your #1 and #2 WR(with no playing time) is going to effect every QB.

We don't need the deep ball to win.
People just like to see it aired out.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Losing your #1 and #2 WR(with no playing time) is going to effect every QB.

We don't need the deep ball to win.
People just like to see it aired out.

But you’re ignoring that even with rashee dominating something just felt off. I think a few weeks with Hollywood would have made a huge difference in fixing mahomes. But we never got a chance to do it. Mahomes isn’t going to be some elite deep ball thrower. This isn’t about throwing 70 yard bombs left and right. He’s not really that qb anymore. This is about opening up an intermediate game to open up the short game. We’ve seen with worthy alone that this is there for us if we could just execute

On top of that we’re struggling to create big scores which has put lots of pressure on a pretty average red zone offense. And we struggle on third and long which isn’t ideal for an OL that commits lots and lots of penalties.

I trust in veach. You don’t think it’s telling that he brought in not 1 but 2 speed options? All while cutting Mvs as a statement that they need to do things differently?

[MIAdragon]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Losing your #1 and #2 WR(with no playing time) is going to effect every QB.

We don't need the deep ball to win.
People just like to see it aired out.

No these are basic throws that any starting qb should make.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

No these are basic throws that any starting qb should make.

Yeah, Ty Johnson had a 100 yard game yesterday. I think there's some truth to the hundred things we talk about here.... new receivers, injured receivers, shitty receivers, offensive line issues, etc.

But we've seen the offense when it's dialed in to win a game or whatever the situation several times this season and then we've seen.... *vaguely gestures* ...that. And we all assume the switch will flip in a few weeks and all is fine, which negates much of what we excuse as "it's everything/everybody EXCEPT Mahomes".

Nah, some of it is on him to flip that switch, especially when playing this way is getting you killed.