Hollywood Brown is expected to practice this week

[TEX]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

On divisional round weekend, if you roll out:

Z - Hollywood
X - Hopkins
Slot - Worthy
TE - Kelce/Gray

There's simply no excuse to not be cooking with that. You have all body types, all speeds, and legitimate contested catch ability. Guys who can win all the way down to inside the five yard line.

Just get the ball out of your hands, mix in the ground game, and profit.

You're right. But if the OL doesn't improve, none of it matters.

[493rd]

Originally Posted by TEX

You're right. But if the OL doesn't improve, none of it matters.

This.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by TEX

You're right. But if the OL doesn't improve, none of it matters.

It's ONE GUY. One position.

Stat after stat after stat shows that we have as good an interior line as the league has and a solid pass protecting RT.

If you can't gameplan around one friggen guy, it's on your coaching staff and yes, your quarterback.

It's one damn guy.

We have to stop hanging everything that ails this offense on the LT. I mean many say we got the best LT play we've had all season on Sunday against Cleveland and the offense STILL looked like boiled dogshit.

I just don't buy this "none of it matters if we don't find a miracle cure at LT" stuff.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's ONE GUY. One position.

Stat after stat after stat shows that we have as good an interior line as the league has and a solid pass protecting RT.

If you can't gameplan around one friggen guy, it's on your coaching staff and yes, your quarterback.

It's one damn guy.

We have to stop hanging everything that ails this offense on the LT. I mean many say we got the best LT play we've had all season on Sunday against Cleveland and the offense STILL looked like boiled dogshit.

I just don't buy this "none of it matters if we don't find a miracle cure at LT" stuff.

You don’t think Jawaan and Trey have struggled some in pass pro?

I don’t think Jawaan is by any means bad, but I think he’s had lapses recently. Well that and he got dog walked by Maxx Crosby. Not glaring but a bit frustrating.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

You don’t think Jawaan and Trey have struggled some in pass pro?

I don’t think Jawaan is by any means bad, but I think he’s had lapses recently. Well that and he got dog walked by Maxx Crosby. Not glaring but a bit frustrating.

I don't think they've been anything that the vast vast vast majority of NFL quarterbacks don't deal with.

I think for 80% of our offensive line Patrick Mahomes is getting, on aggregate, a performance on par or better than 90% of the NFL. Everything is relative and relative to his peers, no, I don't believe there's anything worth pinning the offensive struggles on for those guys.

And I also think that both Mahomes and Andy have made things substantially harder for all of them. I don't think Spencer Brown, for instance, is a better player than Taylor. But he's getting much easier responsibilities.

LT? Yeah - I'll give you that. Especially of late. But I'm not going to pretend like he's not gotten better protection from the other 4 guys than the overwhelming majority of his peers.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's ONE GUY. One position.

Stat after stat after stat shows that we have as good an interior line as the league has and a solid pass protecting RT.

If you can't gameplan around one friggen guy, it's on your coaching staff and yes, your quarterback.

It's one damn guy.

We have to stop hanging everything that ails this offense on the LT. I mean many say we got the best LT play we've had all season on Sunday against Cleveland and the offense STILL looked like boiled dogshit.

I just don't buy this "none of it matters if we don't find a miracle cure at LT" stuff.

Everyone's too afraid to point fingers at Patrick. I do get it, he can't do much wrong in our eyes as fans, but we've talked about it ad nauseum, and we've seen the tape. He's not very good this year.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's ONE GUY. One position.

Stat after stat after stat shows that we have as good an interior line as the league has and a solid pass protecting RT.

If you can't gameplan around one friggen guy, it's on your coaching staff and yes, your quarterback.

It's one damn guy.

We have to stop hanging everything that ails this offense on the LT. I mean many say we got the best LT play we've had all season on Sunday against Cleveland and the offense STILL looked like boiled dogshit.

I just don't buy this "none of it matters if we don't find a miracle cure at LT" stuff.

And it's not as if we didn't see this SAME EXACT issue last year.

I got news everyone, it wasn't just Donovan Smith that all the sudden elevated his game to serviceable levels in the playoffs leading them to win those games.

It was the entire unit rising to the challenge. 100% steady focus for the first time all year long. They felt that need to win maybe for the first time in those games. More opponent-specific game planning. The whole operation, Donovan included, raised up to a higher standard.

That's all we need to happen. Whether it's Thuney or Humphries. And it's very achievable, especially if you're only asking them to hold up for two home playoff games in which they'll be far more fresh than their opponent, as well as a Super Bowl with two weeks to prepare.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

And it's not as if we didn't see this SAME EXACT issue last year.

I got news everyone, it wasn't just Donovan Smith that all the sudden elevated his game to serviceable levels in the playoffs leading them to win those games.

It was the entire unit rising to the challenge. 100% steady focus for the first time all year long. They felt that need to win maybe for the first time in those games. More opponent-specific game planning. The whole operation, Donovan included, raised up to a higher standard.

That's all we need to happen. Whether it's Thuney or Humphries. And it's very achievable, especially if you're only asking them to hold up for two home playoff games in which they'll be far more fresh than their opponent, as well as a Super Bowl with two weeks to prepare.

It should worry folks that we got largely what we asked for out of Thuney - as much as we should reasonably expect from Humphries - and the offense as a whole looked as bad as its looked all season. It might have been its worst game on balance.

Now personally I don't see what others saw with Thuney. I thought he got pushed around a fair bit. I DON'T think he was a noticeable improvement on Morris and ultimately I'd probably be happy putting a pin in that experiment going forward. Or at least I'd allow it only to the extent that it may allow Morris to get healthy again for a stretch run.

But for those that thought he stabilized the position - how do you explain away how god-awful that offense was Sunday? And if you don't think he did (I don't) what miracle pill do you see on the horizon that's going to fix this?

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It should worry folks that we got largely what we asked for out of Thuney - as much as we should reasonably expect from Humphries - and the offense as a whole looked as bad as its looked all season. It might have been its worst game on balance.

Now personally I don't see what others saw with Thuney. I thought he got pushed around a fair bit. I DON'T think he was a noticeable improvement on Morris and ultimately I'd probably be happy putting a pin in that experiment going forward. Or at least I'd allow it only to the extent that it may allow Morris to get healthy again for a stretch run.

But for those that thought he stabilized the position - how do you explain away how god-awful that offense was Sunday? And if you don't think he did (I don't) what miracle pill do you see on the horizon that's going to fix this?

They forget Garret was out for a quarter and don't realize the amount of help he was getting. If Morris had that much help or hell even Kingsley they may both still be playing while Humphries gets in shape.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It should worry folks that we got largely what we asked for out of Thuney - as much as we should reasonably expect from Humphries - and the offense as a whole looked as bad as its looked all season. It might have been its worst game on balance.

Now personally I don't see what others saw with Thuney. I thought he got pushed around a fair bit. I DON'T think he was a noticeable improvement on Morris and ultimately I'd probably be happy putting a pin in that experiment going forward. Or at least I'd allow it only to the extent that it may allow Morris to get healthy again for a stretch run.

But for those that thought he stabilized the position - how do you explain away how god-awful that offense was Sunday? And if you don't think he did (I don't) what miracle pill do you see on the horizon that's going to fix this?

In that second half, I thought our biggest issues were play-calling, focus, and the QBs decision making.

I mean look at the play he got injured on. Thuney did exactly what you want. Mahomes decided to run straight forward into the interior and put his body in harms way instead of just settling somewhere in the middle and making the throw. Otherwise, why not take the escape hatch to the left (to Thuney's right), and either run for the three yards or find an outlet that way.

Mahomes has gotten himself hit a LOT lately. He's trying so hard to stay in the pocket and that's fine if he'd get rid of the ball in a more timely manner. Insert Brown, hopefully.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

In that second half, I thought our biggest issues were play-calling, focus, and the QBs decision making.

I mean look at the play he got injured on. Thuney did exactly what you want. Mahomes decided to run straight forward into the interior and put his body in harms way instead of just settling somewhere in the middle and making the throw. Otherwise, why not take the escape hatch to the left (to Thuney's right), and either run for the three yards or find an outlet that way.

Mahomes has gotten himself hit a LOT lately. He's trying so hard to stay in the pocket and that's fine if he'd get rid of the ball in a more timely manner. Insert Brown, hopefully.

Andy said something interesting in a post-game interview. He said, essentially, "You can't win in this league without passing the football..."

That tells me that they're still trying to figure this shit out. The reason they were throwing is they still don't know what works for them. They were treating the 2nd half like a scrimmage and calling passing plays to see if certain things worked.

I didn't get it in real time but as I heard Reid, it started to make a little more sense.

They're still feeling for it out there.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

In that second half, I thought our biggest issues were play-calling, focus, and the QBs decision making.

I mean look at the play he got injured on. Thuney did exactly what you want. Mahomes decided to run straight forward into the interior and put his body in harms way instead of just settling somewhere in the middle and making the throw. Otherwise, why not take the escape hatch to the left (to Thuney's right), and either run for the three yards or find an outlet that way.

Mahomes has gotten himself hit a LOT lately. He's trying so hard to stay in the pocket and that's fine if he'd get rid of the ball in a more timely manner. Insert Brown, hopefully.

But he's not "Staying in the pocket" he's running himself into alot of this.

[493rd]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

And it's not as if we didn't see this SAME EXACT issue last year.

I got news everyone, it wasn't just Donovan Smith that all the sudden elevated his game to serviceable levels in the playoffs leading them to win those games.

It was the entire unit rising to the challenge. 100% steady focus for the first time all year long. They felt that need to win maybe for the first time in those games. More opponent-specific game planning. The whole operation, Donovan included, raised up to a higher standard.

That's all we need to happen. Whether it's Thuney or Humphries. And it's very achievable, especially if you're only asking them to hold up for two home playoff games in which they'll be far more fresh than their opponent, as well as a Super Bowl with two weeks to prepare.

Is there any scenario where the O line doesn’t rise to the occasion? Like what we’ve seen all season kinda not rising to the occasion. Mahomes been sacked career high this year.