NFL Week 17 - Sunday Games

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

Relax dude. We all love football. Let me be more clear then

The overall product of NFL football in 2024 seems worse than it has in a long while. Not counting the Chiefs and a few other teams, most QBs and head coaches seem woefully lacking in the skills to be good at their jobs. I would prefer better play overall, since I enjoy football.

Yeah, in another thread it was discussed there are typically ~4-6 teams under .300 and there are currently 9 (and the Saints are .313). And it hasn't made the league top heavy, it's just given a bunch of ~6-9 win teams an extra win or three, which makes a bunch of mediocre playoff teams look a little better in the standings.

The fact the Chiefs absolutely **** around in the regular season and can still win 15 games should be an obvious point about the quality of the league... a team without two of their best receivers most of the season, down their game 1 RB1, down to a 3rd string kicker at one point, playing a RG at LT.

Much less the other 1 seed going almost two entire seasons without playing more than a few other teams with 10+ wins.

There's so much bad football being played this season, and we're all here just waiting for mid-January when the shit league is trimmed down to the top 4.

[kstater]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Yeah, in another thread it was discussed there are typically ~4-6 teams under .300 and there are currently 9 (and the Saints are .313). And it hasn't made the league top heavy, it's just given a bunch of ~6-9 win teams an extra win or three, which makes a bunch of mediocre playoff teams look a little better in the standings.



The fact the Chiefs absolutely **** around in the regular season and can still win 15 games should be an obvious point about the quality of the league... a team without two of their best receivers most of the season, down their game 1 RB1, down to a 3rd string kicker at one point, playing a RG at LT.



Much less the other 1 seed going almost two entire seasons without playing more than a few other teams with 10+ wins.



There's so much bad football being played this season, and we're all here just waiting for mid-January when the shit league is trimmed down to the top 4.

Except there's 6(and likely a 7th in the Ravens after next week) teams with .700 records. I'd call that top heavy to go along with the bottom heavy.

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[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by kstater

Except there's 6(and likely a 7th in the Ravens after next week) teams with .700 records. I'd call that top heavy to go along with the bottom heavy.

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Here's the recent past on it. It'll stay at 6 currently unless the Packers come back and win, but we could say 7.

	Under .300	Over .700
2024	9	        7
2023	5	        4
2022	6	        7
2021	6	        6
2020	6	        6
2019	4	        6
2018	4	        5

That's an average of 5.7 teams under .300 and 5.85 teams over .700, and for the 3 additional teams under .300 there's one additional over .700.

I'm watching the Packers, down 13-3 at the moment and their biggest wins of the year are the Texans and then... uh, Colts?

I guess the main question is if you think all of these .700 teams are legit as good as their record (meaning they didn't just beat up on all of those .300 teams).

And I guess for that, we could look at SoV over the years for playoff teams....

2024	2023	2022	2021	2020	2019	2018
0.464	0.529	0.422	0.48	0.464	0.484	0.401
0.436	0.471	0.471	0.517	0.471	0.477	0.494
0.549	0.428	0.49	0.428	0.448	0.411	0.435
0.392	0.465	0.438	0.462	0.398	0.488	0.45
0.446	0.513	0.341	0.515	0.401	0.363	0.422
0.354	0.358	0.456	0.394	0.406	0.465	0.456
0.338	0.571	0.456	0.49	0.384	0.466	0.488
0.483	0.475	0.46	0.48	0.387	0.428	0.428
0.454	0.392	0.414	0.443	0.406	0.459	0.419
0.446	0.436	0.425	0.431	0.404	0.417	0.444
0.465	0.379	0.426	0.409	0.388	0.463	0.4
0.385	0.476	0.485	0.492	0.392	0.356	0.486
0.408	0.453	0.395	0.438	0.484		
0.333	0.458	0.382	0.35	0.336		
						
0.425	0.457	0.433	0.452	0.412	0.440	0.444

We're at the 2nd lowest mark in the past several years for playoff teams, which tells me the top teams are on average feasting on the rest of the league (especially since damn near half the league could wind up with 10+ wins, yet SoV for playoff teams is that low?).

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