Jimmy Carter, 39th US president and noted humanitarian, has died

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by jdubya

When I remember Jimmy Carter I think of long gasoline lines at fuel stations, failed hostage rescue, 16% to 18% interest rates, generic foods in grocery stores and a nation with zero confidence.

Seemed like a likable guy in later years

RIP

I changed my stance a bit on Carter and Reagan when I read the Ben Barnes statement that he and John Connolly went to Iran and offered a deal if Iran wouldn't release the hostages until after the election, promising that the Republicans would give them a better deal.

Think about that. We had Americans being held illegally as prisoners by a foreign country, their lives under constant threat, and American politicians lobbied for them to be imprisoned longer in order to win an election. Carter was working for the good of the American people, and Barnes and Connolly (not sure if Reagan knew) were trying to get Americans' illegal foreign imprisonment to last longer.

Ben Barnes and John Connolly deserve to be lined up against a wall and shot. They are the most despicable villains in American history.

If you haven't read it, here's a random article, but there are a bunch out there: https://www.texasstandard.org/storie...ober-surprise/

I've always had a good impression of Reagan, but if he knew about this, he moves to the very bottom of my list of presidents.

Edit: I probably should put this in the DC version, so we can delete if needed.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I changed my stance a bit on Carter and Reagan when I read the Ben Barnes statement that he and John Connolly went to Iran and offered a deal if Iran wouldn't release the hostages until after the election, promising that the Republicans would give them a better deal.

Think about that. We had Americans being held illegally as prisoners by a foreign country, their lives under constant threat, and American politicians lobbied for them to be imprisoned longer in order to win an election. Carter was working for the good of the American people, and Barnes and Connolly (not sure if Reagan knew) were trying to get Americans' illegal foreign imprisonment to last longer.

Ben Barnes and John Connolly deserve to be lined up against a wall and shot. They are the most despicable villains in American history.

If you haven't read it, here's a random article, but there are a bunch out there: https://www.texasstandard.org/storie...ober-surprise/

I've always had a good impression of Reagan, but if he knew about this, he moves to the very bottom of my list of presidents.

Edit: I probably should put this in the DC version, so we can delete if needed.

Nixon told the Vietnamese to not make a deal until after the election. They will get a better deal. Johnson fed the American public a lie in the Gulf of Tonkin to escalate the war. Presidents do some dirty shit on us. At least Carter didn't lie to us to get a policy they wanted to happen. Pretty low bar but the reality of the presidency.

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I changed my stance a bit on Carter and Reagan when I read the Ben Barnes statement that he and John Connolly went to Iran and offered a deal if Iran wouldn't release the hostages until after the election, promising that the Republicans would give them a better deal.

Think about that. We had Americans being held illegally as prisoners by a foreign country, their lives under constant threat, and American politicians lobbied for them to be imprisoned longer in order to win an election. Carter was working for the good of the American people, and Barnes and Connolly (not sure if Reagan knew) were trying to get Americans' illegal foreign imprisonment to last longer.

Ben Barnes and John Connolly deserve to be lined up against a wall and shot. They are the most despicable villains in American history.

If you haven't read it, here's a random article, but there are a bunch out there: https://www.texasstandard.org/storie...ober-surprise/

I've always had a good impression of Reagan, but if he knew about this, he moves to the very bottom of my list of presidents.

Edit: I probably should put this in the DC version, so we can delete if needed.

Nah.

If Carter had any ability, he would have gotten them out.

He was the Matt Cassel of presidents.

[Pennywise]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I changed my stance a bit on Carter and Reagan when I read the Ben Barnes statement that he and John Connolly went to Iran and offered a deal if Iran wouldn't release the hostages until after the election, promising that the Republicans would give them a better deal.

Think about that. We had Americans being held illegally as prisoners by a foreign country, their lives under constant threat, and American politicians lobbied for them to be imprisoned longer in order to win an election. Carter was working for the good of the American people, and Barnes and Connolly (not sure if Reagan knew) were trying to get Americans' illegal foreign imprisonment to last longer.

Ben Barnes and John Connolly deserve to be lined up against a wall and shot. They are the most despicable villains in American history.

If you haven't read it, here's a random article, but there are a bunch out there: https://www.texasstandard.org/storie...ober-surprise/

I've always had a good impression of Reagan, but if he knew about this, he moves to the very bottom of my list of presidents.

Edit: I probably should put this in the DC version, so we can delete if needed.

Haha. The hunter Biden laptop says hi. So do the 51 Intel spies that lied at the request of Blinken.