What do you do in the offseason if you are the Vikings?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Their roster is so good that people have kinda forgotten that Jalen Hurts...isn't.

They've won enough games with him at QB that folks have decided he's an elite QB. But he really isn't. He's an expensive Purdy.

Shit, now that I think about it, Hurts may be the best comp for Nix.

He's...fine. He's not a problem but he's not a force multiplier.

Is it Barkley that says "he's the wagon not the horse"? I think it's Wright that says he's a thermometer not a furnace or something like that.

Essentially, if he looks good it's because his team is playing well. He's not the REASON his team is playing well, but rather a proxy for that good play around him.

Not enough discussion on how bad Jalen hurts has been. He has been brutally bad and you can see it in his WRs faces. And kinda like the vikes with their insane weapons, how you gonna struggle to put up 100 yards with aj brown, Devonta and goedert against teams begging you to throw the ball?

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

At least Purdy isn't going to get his shit pushed in by every single blitz you send at him.

I'm just floored by how poorly Darnold handled that the last 2 weeks. It was just spamming an easy button and he had no earthly idea what to do with it.

I haven't watched much Vikes. Did dudes just not blitz them? Was this a ****ing surprise? Because as bad as Darnold was - he was very bad - I didn't see a ton of TE leaks, RB in the flat, comebacks, the hot route shit.

I mean, the ones that were there he missed, so whatever, but I don't think O'Connell did a ton to help him.

Originally Posted by O.city

Mediocre is fine. Honestly, more teams should shoot for and be fine with that.

I can't believe Dallas didn't bring back McCarthy, a guy who has shown he can get the best out of Dak and win 12 games a year.

But, no. Lets shoot for "we've gotta win SB's this is unacceptable".

You don't have one of the top QB's who win SB's. You won't win.

I'm here for the jokes, and there will be a lot, so this is GREAT.

**** the Cowbtiches.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Not enough discussion on how bad Jalen hurts has been. He has been brutally bad and you can see it in his WRs faces. And kinda like the vikes with their insane weapons, how you gonna struggle to put up 100 yards with aj brown, Devonta and goedert against teams begging you to throw the ball?

Yeah, I don't get it. Dude hasn't thrown for 200 yards in over a month? I think I have that right, my God what are they doing?

And it's not like he can't, he had a great game in the Super Bowl against us.

There has to be an injury that Sirianni is hiding (like the ankle earlier in the year) or something. If not, it's time for a change at coach.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

I haven't watched much Vikes. Did dudes just not blitz them? Was this a ****ing surprise? Because as bad as Darnold was - he was very bad - I didn't see a ton of TE leaks, RB in the flat, comebacks, the hot route shit.

I mean, the ones that were there he missed, so whatever, but I don't think O'Connell did a ton to help him.

I said this during the Lions game.

"Coach of the Year, my ass..."

O'Connell left Darnold out there to die in the two biggest games of their season and was THOROUGHLY out-coached in both games.

He'll get his win this year and I hope to never hear his name among the actual championship caliber coaches in the league again. Because he got exposed down the stretch.

There might just be some McDaniel to him. He's a guy who can look awfully sharp when things are going his way but he doesn't seem to have much of a plan when he gets punched in the mouth.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I said this during the Lions game.

"Coach of the Year, my ass..."

O'Connell left Darnold out there to die in the two biggest games of their season and was THOROUGHLY out-coached in both games.

He'll get his win this year and I hope to never hear his name among the actual championship caliber coaches in the league again. Because he got exposed down the stretch.

There might just be some McDaniel to him. He's a guy who can look awfully sharp when things are going his way but he doesn't seem to have much of a plan when he gets punched in the mouth.

I'm sure I'll get shit on for it, but this is another reason I don't think Andy gets the praise he should.

Alot of these coaches are good coaches when things go their way or when they have a hot QB.

But they themselves making the QB play well? Nah, but I've seen Andy do it.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm sure I'll get shit on for it, but this is another reason I don't think Andy gets the praise he should.

Alot of these coaches are good coaches when things go their way or when they have a hot QB.

But they themselves making the QB play well? Nah, but I've seen Andy do it.

I said it BEFORE he won his first SB -- Andy Reid was always a victim of his own success.

People wanted to kill him for not winning a SB with Donovan McNabb when in fact, the only reason people thought that scatter-armed mediocrity was a championship caliber QB was BECAUSE of Andy Reid.

I didn't need the SBs to know that Reid was one of the best coaches of all time. But I'm sure glad he got 'em.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I said this during the Lions game.

"Coach of the Year, my ass..."

O'Connell left Darnold out there to die in the two biggest games of their season and was THOROUGHLY out-coached in both games.

He'll get his win this year and I hope to never hear his name among the actual championship caliber coaches in the league again. Because he got exposed down the stretch.

There might just be some McDaniel to him. He's a guy who can look awfully sharp when things are going his way but he doesn't seem to have much of a plan when he gets punched in the mouth.

I don’t know, there’s also so many ways you can dress up a pig. It reminds me of when dick vermeil used to gameplan around Jordan black. At some point you’re gonna be exposed. Those runs and quick passes don’t mean shit if your qb can’t prove he can do anything beyond that. It’s a wonder darnold was masked for that long.

I still really like KOC and the takeaway for me is that darnold largely got exposed for who he is. On the one hand KOC probably had an Andy Reid vs anuramo game where darnold should have taken what he was given. On the other hand I don’t think that would have mattered when the qb is that broken. We still have to remember that the Vikings went this far with a backup qb and I think that absolutely deserves coach of the year consideration.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I said this during the Lions game.

"Coach of the Year, my ass..."

O'Connell left Darnold out there to die in the two biggest games of their season and was THOROUGHLY out-coached in both games.

He'll get his win this year and I hope to never hear his name among the actual championship caliber coaches in the league again. Because he got exposed down the stretch.

There might just be some McDaniel to him. He's a guy who can look awfully sharp when things are going his way but he doesn't seem to have much of a plan when he gets punched in the mouth.

QB is everything. Remember in 2017 when we started off so hot with Alex and then by Thanksgiving Andy was fried? He was burnt out and gave Nagy playcalling duties.

He just couldn’t get anything out of Alex anymore. He squeezed that orange completely dry.

I think that’s exactly what’s happened here. The wildcard rd primarily was about defenses getting tape on these middle of the pack QB’s and killing them.

Darnold, Nix, Herbert, Love, Wilson. Just can’t hide these guys forever. Eventually it’s gut check time and plays needs to be made.

There’s a reason McVay traded for Stafford. Shannahan, McDaniels and KOC have been limited by their QB’s the way Andy was for years.