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Old 02-09-2025, 09:09 PM   #1
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Name a single OT not named Fisher who has developed under Heck

People refuse to cast blame where it’s warranted. People will say Veach is the best GM then turn around and excuse Heck saying he hasn’t been given the talent to work with. Which is it? Is Veach not finding the players or is Heck not developing them? You can’t absolve both of them. Yeah it’s hard, but that’s the job.
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Old 02-09-2025, 09:11 PM   #2
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Name a single OT not named Fisher who has developed under Heck

People refuse to cast blame where it’s warranted. People will say Veach is the best GM then turn around and excuse Heck saying he hasn’t been given the talent to work with. Which is it? Is Veach not finding the players or is Heck not developing them? You can’t absolve both of them. Yeah it’s hard, but that’s the job.
It’s a combination of both. I would think heck would be on the evaluation process. He should bear some responsibility in who’s been drafted.
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Old 02-09-2025, 09:29 PM   #3
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Name a single OT not named Fisher who has developed under Heck

People refuse to cast blame where it’s warranted. People will say Veach is the best GM then turn around and excuse Heck saying he hasn’t been given the talent to work with. Which is it? Is Veach not finding the players or is Heck not developing them? You can’t absolve both of them. Yeah it’s hard, but that’s the job.
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Old 02-09-2025, 09:56 PM   #4
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Name a single OT not named Fisher who has developed under Heck

People refuse to cast blame where it’s warranted. People will say Veach is the best GM then turn around and excuse Heck saying he hasn’t been given the talent to work with. Which is it? Is Veach not finding the players or is Heck not developing them? You can’t absolve both of them. Yeah it’s hard, but that’s the job.
Name a single OT we cut who has thrived after we cut them.

Oh right… Donovan smith was so good teams were scared of how good he was
Wanya morris is going to be a tier 1 free agent if we let him loose

We have an elite gm. He hasn’t hit the mark on one position. He has proven time and time again that when his feet are put to the fire he will fix it. The Houston game was a clear sign we were playing with house money for a while. Our OL was an issue and bandaids can only take you so far
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Old 02-09-2025, 10:03 PM   #5
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Name a single OT we cut who has thrived after we cut them.

Oh right… Donovan smith was so good teams were scared of how good he was
Wanya morris is going to be a tier 1 free agent if we let him loose

We have an elite gm. He hasn’t hit the mark on one position. He has proven time and time again that when his feet are put to the fire he will fix it. The Houston game was a clear sign we were playing with house money for a while. Our OL was an issue and bandaids can only take you so far
Personally, I think Patrick and Travis cover up a lot of issues with the offense.
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Old 02-09-2025, 10:10 PM   #6
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Name a single OT we cut who has thrived after we cut them.

Oh right… Donovan smith was so good teams were scared of how good he was
Wanya morris is going to be a tier 1 free agent if we let him loose

We have an elite gm. He hasn’t hit the mark on one position. He has proven time and time again that when his feet are put to the fire he will fix it. The Houston game was a clear sign we were playing with house money for a while. Our OL was an issue and bandaids can only take you so far
I see high priced free agents like Jawan Taylor and Orlando Brown jr that came here and regressed under Heck.
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Old 02-09-2025, 10:14 PM   #7
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I see high priced free agents like Jawan Taylor and Orlando Brown jr that came here and regressed under Heck.
Obj is playing about the same level of average in cincy

And Taylor is playing at about the same level of average as he did in Jacksonville

Taylor wasn’t great but it’s clear where the biggest issues were today and it was on the other side
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