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Old 02-16-2025, 12:11 PM   #1
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Imagine the Chiefs still paying Frank Clark dead money this year bc of void years?

Imagine paying Jawaan Taylor dead money in 2027 when he’s been off the team bc we utilized void years?

Imagine paying Justin Reid dead money in 2025 and 2026 when he’s off the team?

This board would melt down if we did that. It’s infinitely better to simply pay them higher cap hits so that you can get them off the books clean/minimal damage rather than paying guys to not play for you.

Anyone who thinks dead money doesn’t matter look at the Broncos. Richest owners in the league by far and they couldn’t spend on FA’s this year bc of Russell Wilson’s enormous dead money.
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Old 02-16-2025, 03:05 PM   #2
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Imagine the Chiefs still paying Frank Clark dead money this year bc of void years?

Imagine paying Jawaan Taylor dead money in 2027 when he’s been off the team bc we utilized void years?

Imagine paying Justin Reid dead money in 2025 and 2026 when he’s off the team?

This board would melt down if we did that. It’s infinitely better to simply pay them higher cap hits so that you can get them off the books clean/minimal damage rather than paying guys to not play for you.

Anyone who thinks dead money doesn’t matter look at the Broncos. Richest owners in the league by far and they couldn’t spend on FA’s this year bc of Russell Wilson’s enormous dead money.
So it’s the signing bonus that is being pushed to the void years only? And also looks like post June 1 releases then allows the team to split that remaining signing bonus over 2 years instead of 1.

Am I reading this correctly?
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Old 02-16-2025, 03:07 PM   #3
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So it’s the signing bonus that is being pushed to the void years only? And also looks like post June 1 releases then allows the team to split that remaining signing bonus over 2 years instead of 1.

Am I reading this correctly?
Yes, you can't prorate salary.
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Old 02-16-2025, 03:11 PM   #4
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Yes, you can't prorate salary.
So you’re then talking about the rest of the signing bonus that can be spread over 2 seasons with the cap raising a decent amount every year. Seems like it would be fairly manageable at that point because the rest of the bonus owed may not have that much left, plus splitting it between 2 years, and cap inflation.
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Old 02-16-2025, 03:14 PM   #5
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So you’re then talking about the rest of the signing bonus that can be spread over 2 seasons with the cap raising a decent amount every year. Seems like it would be fairly manageable at that point because the rest of the bonus owed may not have that much left, plus splitting it between 2 years, and cap inflation.
ASSUMING the cap raises a decent amount every year. There might come a day when that doesn't happen. Or somethings worse happens like a fallout in the CBA. At that point, all of that future spending becomes a current crisis. Like I said before, it's a calculated risk. If things continue as they are, they will be fine. If things don't, the piper comes calling and the whole thing implodes.
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Old 02-16-2025, 03:22 PM   #6
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ASSUMING the cap raises a decent amount every year. There might come a day when that doesn't happen. Or somethings worse happens like a fallout in the CBA. At that point, all of that future spending becomes a current crisis. Like I said before, it's a calculated risk. If things continue as they are, they will be fine. If things don't, the piper comes calling and the whole thing implodes.
Yeah, obviously you wouldn’t want to do it for every player. But the bigger players with the higher salaries and signing bonuses that are just entering their prime seem like good candidates, especially if you’re trying to stay in your window.
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Old 02-17-2025, 10:06 AM   #7
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You’d have to assume the players association will want changes on the void year process. The players get no benefit from it, while some teams are using it to stretch the cap significantly.

It’s a shared truth that a draft pick today is worth more than one next year. The same is true for cap dollars.
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