Do you still believe is Mahomes and our coaching staff?

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

We could always go back to no playoff wins in 30 years.

This season ultimately ended the same way all those did: no ring.

We have one of the absolute best QBs in the history of the sport. He's not going to play forever. We could be back in the era of no playoff wins before we know it. So when you get to the position where you have a shot at the only 3peat ever and a shot at only being two Lombardis shy of becoming the most decorated team in NFL history, all the "I'm just happy to be here. I just hope they had fun. Good try, Andy!" stuff is over.

I didn't say Andy should be fired. But he shit on the carpet again and he should have his face rubbed into the mess until he learns to stop.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BigRock

This season ultimately ended the same way all those did: no ring.

We have one of the absolute best QBs in the history of the sport. He's not going to play forever. We could be back in the era of no playoff wins before we know it. So when you get to the position where you have a shot at the only 3peat ever and a shot at only being two Lombardis shy of becoming the most decorated team in NFL history, all the "I'm just happy to be here. I just hope they had fun. Good try, Andy!" stuff is over.

I didn't say Andy should be fired. But he shit on the carpet again and he should have his face rubbed into the mess until he learns to stop.

Since Mahomes has started they haven't missed a single AFC championship game. They've won 3 Super Bowls in 6 years.

Everything else is the whining of a spoiled fan base.

[SAGA45]

I still believe in Mahomes and Reid.. I just worry sometime that Andy's ego can be a detriment.

It's like he refused to concede that Fangio's defense was taking away everything he thought would work. If he had accepted that and adapted or adjusted, maybe the outcome would've been different or, at the very least, less demoralizing.

I feel that's a major flaw with Andy Reid. He's so used to winning that he doesn't realize when he's beaten until it's too late.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by SAGA45

I still believe in Mahomes and Reid.. I just worry sometime that Andy's ego can be a detriment.

It's like he refused to concede that Fangio's defense was taking away everything he thought would work. If he had accepted that and adapted or adjusted, maybe the outcome would've been different or, at the very least, less demoralizing.

I feel that's a major flaw with Andy Reid. He's so used to winning that he doesn't realize when he's beaten until it's too late.

Part of the problem was that Fangio's D didn't take away everything. In the play the obvious answer for the offense was there and time after time Pat didn't choose it or wasn't accurate. That's unbelievably rare - and I have no idea why. Multiple people, including Daniel who use to play in this offense, have stated that the obvious answers within the play were there and Pat didn't throw them the ball.

Sure, part of that is the ass O line play but the biggest part was Pat's performance. At some point Andy needed to run the football and he didn't. It's not about gaining yards - it's about Pat not getting killed and the o line not having to play the whole game pass blocking. It doesn't matter if you average 1 yard a run any more than it mattered that the Eagles couldn't get squat running. You can't just let a great pass rush T off on the QB.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Part of the problem was that Fangio's D didn't take away everything. In the play the obvious answer for the offense was there and time after time Pat didn't choose it or wasn't accurate. That's unbelievably rare - and I have no idea why. Multiple people, including Daniel who use to play in this offense, have stated that the obvious answers within the play were there and Pat didn't throw them the ball.

Sure, part of that is the ass O line play but the biggest part was Pat's performance. At some point Andy needed to run the football and he didn't. It's not about gaining yards - it's about Pat not getting killed and the o line not having to play the whole game pass blocking. It doesn't matter if you average 1 yard a run any more than it mattered that the Eagles couldn't get squat running. You can't just let a great pass rush T off on the QB.

Running for 1.5ypc does matter. If you can't run them out of their pass defense and you're constantly in 3rd and long, that makes it Infinitely harder on the passing game.

There wasn't any reason to run the ball. It wasn't going to help. It needs serious attention in the off-season.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Since Mahomes has started they haven't missed a single AFC championship game. They've won 3 Super Bowls in 6 years.

Everything else is the whining of a spoiled fan base.

I mean, this.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Since Mahomes has started they haven't missed a single AFC championship game. They've won 3 Super Bowls in 6 years.

Everything else is the whining of a spoiled fan base.

It's not spoiled to expect your head coach not to get embarrassed in the biggest game of his life. It isn't whining to point out that he pissed down his leg on the biggest stage again. If you want to give him a hug and some warm milk and tell him the most important thing that is he tried, feel free. But fixing a problem starts by admitting it exists.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BigRock

It's not spoiled to expect your head coach not to get embarrassed in the biggest game of his life. It isn't whining to point out that he pissed down his leg on the biggest stage again. If you want to give him a hug and some warm milk and tell him the most important thing that is he tried, feel free. But fixing a problem starts by admitting it exists.

Actually, it is whining. It's loser shit. No coach is perfect. Andy is as close as we're ever gonna get. All the greats piss down their leg at some point. Lombardi embarrassed himself in Washington. Don Shula went to a Super Bowl in 1984 and then spent the next 10 years being Marty. Belichick debased himself with Cam Newton. No one cares.

GLORY lasts forever.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Actually, it is whining. It's loser shit.

Loser shit is wasting another season of the best QB in a generation by getting blown out in the Super Bowl for the 2nd time in 4 years and going "Aw shucks! Well, it was a heck of a season! I certainly won't be asking any questions about how this could possibly happen yet again!"

That shit is how Carl kept the seats full. That shit is why grown men were cheering and high-fiving at the Eric Fisher pick.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Loser shit is wasting another season of the best QB in a generation by getting blown out in the Super Bowl for the 2nd time in 4 years and going "Aw shucks! Well, it was a heck of a season! I certainly won't be asking any questions about how this could possibly happen yet again!"

That shit is how Carl kept the seats full. That shit is why grown men were cheering and high-fiving at the Eric Fisher pick.

Dude, I'm sorry, a Super Bowl appearance is not a wasted season. This is absurd.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

Dude, I'm sorry, a Super Bowl appearance is not a wasted season. This is absurd.

The goal of a season is not to get to the Super Bowl. The goal is to win the Super Bowl. And this Super Bowl in particular would have put the Kansas City by god ****ing Chiefs into the most rarefied air in NFL history. We don't get to 3peat by winning next year.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Loser shit is wasting another season of the best QB in a generation by getting blown out in the Super Bowl for the 2nd time in 4 years and going "Aw shucks! Well, it was a heck of a season! I certainly won't be asking any questions about how this could possibly happen yet again!"

That shit is how Carl kept the seats full. That shit is why grown men were cheering and high-fiving at the Eric Fisher pick.

Average point differential in their first 21 playoff games:

Montana (16-5) : +8.71
Brady (16-5) : +5.85
Mahomes (17-4) : +5.43

Nothing is being wasted.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Loser shit is wasting another season of the best QB in a generation by getting blown out in the Super Bowl for the 2nd time in 4 years and going "Aw shucks! Well, it was a heck of a season! I certainly won't be asking any questions about how this could possibly happen yet again!"

That shit is how Carl kept the seats full. That shit is why grown men were cheering and high-fiving at the Eric Fisher pick.

You just compared one of the best runs in NFL history for any team to the Carl Peterson Chiefs. Seek help, you've lost it.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You just compared one of the best runs in NFL history for any team to the Carl Peterson Chiefs. Seek help, you've lost it.

Veach is a huge reason why KC has gone to 5 of the last 6 SB's.

Carl Peterson and his refusal to draft a 1st round QB is the biggest reason KC never won a playoff game without Montana.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You just compared one of the best runs in NFL history for any team to the Carl Peterson Chiefs. Seek help, you've lost it.

No, I compared the TRUE FANS~! who let Carl stay employed for twenty years with the people who want to cover their eyes and ask no questions about Andy Reid getting blown out in two of the last four Super Bowls.

If that bothers you it's because it's describing you.