Do you still believe is Mahomes and our coaching staff?

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by BigRock

What's entitled is to act like pissing away Super Bowls doesn't matter. You can cite embarrassing blowout losses by Montana and Brady all day (though not in Super Bowls) because you know they kept winning titles afterwards.

You have no idea if that will happen to us. If you think it will, that's entitled. And if it turns out this was our last shot at one, be it forever or for a long ass time like Brady had, maybe you'll start to think differently about blowing a perfectly winnable game because Andy's head was up his ass.

Please tell us oh wise one. If you were Clark Hunt what would you do to do better?

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

Please tell us oh wise one. If you were Clark Hunt what would you do to do better?

Well, I'd hope Andy would take the initiative to do it himself. But if someone actually has to tell him what to do, let's see.

Considering Andy and his staff managed to miss - this is just one example, mind you - that since Joe Thuney plays guard because he doesn't have LT size, then it's a really ****ing bad idea to put him on an island over and over against lengthy pass rushers with strong power moves who can run right through him like the Eagles have, I might insist he get some new eyeballs in the room.

Since twice on the biggest stage we've seen Andy smash his head against a wall, go "ouch this hurts", and then keep doing it over and over, I might strongly suggest that he work on a method to fix that. Maybe for every big game he should start getting someone he trusts - Nagy, Doug Peterson, Jake from State Farm - to do nothing but design a completely separate Plan B based on the idea that Plan A didn't work. So instead of Andy standing there staring at the field for another 2nd half of a Super Bowl his team is trailing by 20+ points in, he can actually try something different.

Alternatively, being an owner and not a coach and all, I'd ask Andy about his QB's involvement in such adjustments. Instead of getting himself killed running plays that were DOA from the snap, maybe let him have some input on what to run. On a scale of Jamarcus Russell to Peyton Manning, what level of autonomy at the line does Mahomes have? And if it's not Manning level going into his 9th year in the league, why not and what does Andy need to do for it to get there?

And since Andy is the slowest man alive at reacting to poor OL play, I might politely inquire if he can hire a coach who's sole duty is to approach Andy on the sideline when needed and say "Ummmm... you know we can replace him, right Coach?" And maybe an entirely new coach isn't needed, maybe the same guy who manages the clock for Andy can do it. But we don't want to put too much on that guy's plate so let's err on the side of caution.

That enough for you?

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Well, I'd hope Andy would take the initiative to do it himself. But if someone actually has to tell him what to do, let's see.

Considering Andy and his staff managed to miss - this is just one example, mind you - that since Joe Thuney plays guard because he doesn't have LT size, then it's a really ****ing bad idea to put him on an island over and over against lengthy pass rushers with strong power moves who can run right through him like the Eagles have, I might insist he get some new eyeballs in the room.

Since twice on the biggest stage we've seen Andy smash his head against a wall, go "ouch this hurts", and then keep doing it over and over, I might strongly suggest that he work on a method to fix that. Maybe for every big game he should start getting someone he trusts - Nagy, Doug Peterson, Jake from State Farm - to do nothing but design a completely separate Plan B based on the idea that Plan A didn't work. So instead of Andy standing there staring at the field for another 2nd half of a Super Bowl his team is trailing by 20+ points in, he can actually try something different.

Alternatively, being an owner and not a coach and all, I'd ask Andy about his QB's involvement in such adjustments. Instead of getting himself killed running plays that were DOA from the snap, maybe let him have some input on what to run. On a scale of Jamarcus Russell to Peyton Manning, what level of autonomy at the line does Mahomes have? And if it's not Manning level going into his 9th year in the league, why not and what does Andy need to do for it to get there?

And since Andy is the slowest man alive at reacting to poor OL play, I might politely inquire if he can hire a coach who's sole duty is to approach Andy on the sideline when needed and say "Ummmm... you know we can replace him, right Coach?" And maybe an entirely new coach isn't needed, maybe the same guy who manages the clock for Andy can do it. But we don't want to put too much on that guy's plate so let's err on the side of caution.

That enough for you?

So you'd be Jerry Jones. Good to know.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by SmallCock

Well, I'd hope Andy would take the initiative to do it himself. But if someone actually has to tell him what to do, let's see.

Considering Andy and his staff managed to miss - this is just one example, mind you - that since Joe Thuney plays guard because he doesn't have LT size, then it's a really ****ing bad idea to put him on an island over and over against lengthy pass rushers with strong power moves who can run right through him like the Eagles have, I might insist he get some new eyeballs in the room.

Since twice on the biggest stage we've seen Andy smash his head against a wall, go "ouch this hurts", and then keep doing it over and over, I might strongly suggest that he work on a method to fix that. Maybe for every big game he should start getting someone he trusts - Nagy, Doug Peterson, Jake from State Farm - to do nothing but design a completely separate Plan B based on the idea that Plan A didn't work. So instead of Andy standing there staring at the field for another 2nd half of a Super Bowl his team is trailing by 20+ points in, he can actually try something different.

Alternatively, being an owner and not a coach and all, I'd ask Andy about his QB's involvement in such adjustments. Instead of getting himself killed running plays that were DOA from the snap, maybe let him have some input on what to run. On a scale of Jamarcus Russell to Peyton Manning, what level of autonomy at the line does Mahomes have? And if it's not Manning level going into his 9th year in the league, why not and what does Andy need to do for it to get there?

And since Andy is the slowest man alive at reacting to poor OL play, I might politely inquire if he can hire a coach who's sole duty is to approach Andy on the sideline when needed and say "Ummmm... you know we can replace him, right Coach?" And maybe an entirely new coach isn't needed, maybe the same guy who manages the clock for Andy can do it. But we don't want to put too much on that guy's plate so let's err on the side of caution.

That enough for you?

Mods, please change his screen name to the more appropriate ^^^

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Considering Andy and his staff managed to miss - this is just one example, mind you - that since Joe Thuney plays guard because he doesn't have LT size, then it's a really ****ing bad idea to put him on an island over and over against lengthy pass rushers with strong power moves who can run right through him like the Eagles have, I might insist he get some new eyeballs in the room.

It's not that simple of a calculus.

If this logic were true, the Chiefs would never have won a playoff game.

The Texans defense was roughly equivalent to Philadelphia's.

The difference in the Super Bowl was that their opponent had a bye before playing the Chiefs, and the Chiefs were not playing at home. In a league where every inch matters, that alone could have shifted the pendulum over the threshold.

Just accept the fact that the team had a bad day, lack of talent caught up to them against a hungrier Eagles team, and no amount of coaching changes were going to make a difference. The Chiefs were outclassed and lost many of the advantages they had in the first two postseason games. Andy was boxed into a corner at LT and got out of the situation as best he could, winning most of the games after the switch. You focus on one loss and call it bad coaching, when it was actually brilliant coaching that they got as far as they did.