First Round Targets

[RunKC]

I think this will be the year to trade back. I think most of these guys like Harmon, Stewart and Nolen will be gone.

The players from 20-50 will all be the same grade. This may be the draft to trade down either from 31 or from the Titans pick to acquire more assets.

I’ve read this for seemingly everybody: there will be many good first contract and good players worth second contracts throughout rd 5.

Think of guys like Jaylen Watson. I think those kind of good players will be available throughout the meat of this draft.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I think this will be the year to trade back. I think most of these guys like Harmon, Stewart and Nolen will be gone.

The players from 20-50 will all be the same grade. This may be the draft to trade down either from 31 or from the Titans pick to acquire more assets.

I’ve read this for seemingly everybody: there will be many good first contract and good players worth second contracts throughout rd 5.

Think of guys like Jaylen Watson. I think those kind of good players will be available throughout the meat of this draft.

I think this is a terrible idea. The quality of player at 31 will be better than it has maybe any other year with us picking that late, and now we're going to trade back for a measly 4th?

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I think this is a terrible idea. The quality of player at 31 will be better than it has maybe any other year with us picking that late, and now we're going to trade back for a measly 4th?

Veach has done way better trading up than staying put or trading down.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Veach has done way better trading up than staying put or trading down.

Yeah he won’t do it for 31 which is why I listed the Titans pick. I would like to trade down a few spots from 66 to get another mid rd pick.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I think this is a terrible idea. The quality of player at 31 will be better than it has maybe any other year with us picking that late, and now we're going to trade back for a measly 4th?

It won’t happen bc it isn’t Veach’s style, but a Bills like trade back 4 spots would not be bad at all if we got a 4th or 5th.

It depends on what’s there. But I think it should absolutely be an option in this draft.

[Palangi]

Originally Posted by RunKC

It won’t happen bc it isn’t Veach’s style, but a Bills like trade back 4 spots would not be bad at all if we got a 4th or 5th.

It depends on what’s there. But I think it should absolutely be an option in this draft.

If it is with aQB needy team looking to get that 5th year option to get Dart out Milroe I think we could squeeze the 4th and 5th round picks in it.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Palangi

If it is with aQB needy team looking to get that 5th year option to get Dart out Milroe I think we could squeeze the 4th and 5th round picks in it.

I'd be surprised if either of those QBs go before the 3rd round.

[Palangi]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I'd be surprised if either of those QBs go before the 3rd round.

There was some talk of the Steelers taking Dart at 21.

QBs always push up. Look at the top two. I don’t think either one should be a top 20 pick. In fact I think sanders is more of a second rounder himself

[Sassy Squatch]

Why the **** would we give up a potential 5th year option just for a mid day 3 pick?!?

Just for perspective, the 5th year option for McDuffie is 13.6 million and for Karlaftis is 15.2 million.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

It won’t happen bc it isn’t Veach’s style, but a Bills like trade back 4 spots would not be bad at all if we got a 4th or 5th.

It depends on what’s there. But I think it should absolutely be an option in this draft.

It worked out super well for the Bills...

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It worked out super well for the Bills...

The Bills are stupid franchise though. Has any draft pick in recent memory been a true blue chip for them? Spencer Brown was a hell of a get but aside from him?

It was truly unbelievable that they passed on McConkey. I don’t give a shit if you have Shakir. McConkey was that good and we all knew it. Coleman was a reach and we all knew that too. The Bills **** up their draft picks no matter what they do. They just got rid of Elam and Kincaid has not been good and their fans hate him.

It depends on the draft. This one is very very good in rds 2-5.

Just saying. The last time this franchise traded back, they drafted a first ballot HOF DT (Chris Jones) and parlayed the trade compensation (Parker Ehringer) into a pro bowl/2nd team all-pro corner (Charvarius Ward).

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I think this is a terrible idea. The quality of player at 31 will be better than it has maybe any other year with us picking that late, and now we're going to trade back for a measly 4th?

Hurray!!!!!

Another convert to the "Don't trade out of the 1st unless you're screwin' 'em" club!!!!

I just don't understand why folks are so eager to move down 10-15 spots for a pick that has a 20% chance of making a meaningful impact.

If someone wants to blow our socks off, fine -- gimme a spare 2nd and I'll gladly rip you off. But I hate hate hate HATE trading out of the 1st round pretty much every year it gets discussed.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Hurray!!!!!

Another convert to the "Don't trade out of the 1st unless you're screwin' 'em" club!!!!

I just don't understand why folks are so eager to move down 10-15 spots for a pick that has a 20% chance of making a meaningful impact.

If someone wants to blow our socks off, fine -- gimme a spare 2nd and I'll gladly rip you off. But I hate hate hate HATE trading out of the 1st round pretty much every year it gets discussed.

You didn't even have to convert me. I've never advocated for it honestly. It just makes even less sense this year.