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Old 03-05-2025, 08:16 AM  
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Chiefs discussing Thuney trade [confirmed]






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Old 03-05-2025, 11:02 AM   #166
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If you all want the turnstile that is Cam Robinson, I sincerely hope it's a contract that's no more than the 2/30 that Jonah Williams got in signing with the Cardinals. I want absolutely ****ing nothing to do with seeing Cam Robinson here but whatever. I don't get paid to make those choices, and if that's what it is I'll have to swallow it.

Please go for an LT in the draft if we sign this turd though. Gives the young guy a year to develop with no real pressure on him before taking over in 2026.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:02 AM   #167
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For a 2026 4th though? Geez the league really doesn't want to play ball with us lol
Some of you guys seem to think guys have way more value than they do, a really good LT you can get a 1, good RT is a 2, top of the line guard is gonna be a 3/4 Center is probably the same.

If the Chiefs put Creed Humphrey up for trade the offer they would get is probably right about what they spent on his draft pick.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:03 AM   #168
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Gotta say. I love what Ben Johnson is doing in Chicago already. Most sacked and pressured QB in the NFL by far last year and he goes out and gets Jonah Jackson and Joe Thuney to immediately make that OL much better. Top 10 pick Darnell Wright was only solid OL at RT last year.

He’ll probably try to get Campbell or Membou in the first rd to bolster that line more like they had in Detroit. Could totally see him snag TreVeyon Henderson in rd 2 to be his new Jahmyr Gibbs chess piece. I’m buying Caleb Williams and Bears stock.

Bears might be back. NFC North is gonna be hella fun to watch next year.
Yeah I’m not dumping any Caleb Williams stock yet.

He has all the tools. He was thrown into a terrible spot last year with a joke of a line and a lame duck defensive head coach.

We’ll see how good he really is this year.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:04 AM   #169
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Some of you guys seem to think guys have way more value than they do, a really good LT you can get a 1, good RT is a 2, top of the line guard is gonna be a 3/4 Center is probably the same.

If the Chiefs put Creed Humphrey up for trade the offer they would get is probably right about what they spent on his draft pick.
They don't understand how things like money and age play a factor.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:05 AM   #170
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They don't understand how things like money and age play a factor.
Yea of course, Thuney is 33 the fact they got anything for him is good most of the time that's just a release.

But having to trade a pick to pay someone is something that immediately lowers value unless dude is all world teams don't like doing that.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:05 AM   #171
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And I know people have their quibbles with PFF, but their grades match my eye test.

He was nothing resembling good, and was downright BAD in the playoffs.


Regular season:

64.7 overall (56th out of 141 OT's)
70.4 passing (49th of 141)
59.9 rushing (75th of 141)

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51.2 overall (34th of 40 OT's)
39.5 passing (35th of 40)
60.7 rushing (17th of 40)


Joe Thuney graded out better.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:07 AM   #172
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Gotta say. I love what Ben Johnson is doing in Chicago already. Most sacked and pressured QB in the NFL by far last year and he goes out and gets Jonah Jackson and Joe Thuney to immediately make that OL much better. Top 10 pick Darnell Wright was only solid OL at RT last year.

He’ll probably try to get Campbell or Membou in the first rd to bolster that line more like they had in Detroit. Could totally see him snag TreVeyon Henderson in rd 2 to be his new Jahmyr Gibbs chess piece. I’m buying Caleb Williams and Bears stock.

Bears might be back. NFC North is gonna be hella fun to watch next year.
Bears gonna be good..the cluster**** that was Williams develop there was a joke. Williams had to form his own film study sessions because his OC had no desire to do it, WTF is that?
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:07 AM   #173
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They don't understand how things like money and age play a factor.
We received a 3rd round pick in the following year’s draft for a really good CB in his prime. I think we actually did pretty well with this trade.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:08 AM   #174
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And I know people have their quibbles with PFF, but their grades match my eye test.

He was nothing resembling good, and was downright BAD in the playoffs.


Regular season:

64.7 overall (56th out of 141 OT's)
70.4 passing (49th of 141)
59.9 rushing (75th of 141)

Playoffs:

51.2 overall (34th of 40 OT's)
39.5 passing (35th of 40)
60.7 rushing (17th of 40)


Joe Thuney graded out better.
I don't even think they're signing Cam Robinson I think people are gonna be hurt when it's Tyron Smith.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:09 AM   #175
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Ok but if they kept him this year and let him walk in FA they would have gotten a 3rd round comp pick next year right? As long as he doesn't retire.
End of the 3rd round, which might not be that far from the Bears' 4th-rounder.

Also if he walks at the end of the 2025 season, that means a 2027 3rd rounder.

And it could get canceled out by acquiring a free agent.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:10 AM   #176
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If you all want the turnstile that is Cam Robinson, I sincerely hope it's a contract that's no more than the 2/30 that Jonah Williams got in signing with the Cardinals. I want absolutely ****ing nothing to do with seeing Cam Robinson here but whatever. I don't get paid to make those choices, and if that's what it is I'll have to swallow it.

Please go for an LT in the draft if we sign this turd though. Gives the young guy a year to develop with no real pressure on him before taking over in 2026.
I thought Cam Robinson played much better in a competent offense than he did with in that Jacksonville mess. If you're signing Cam Robinson, you're betting he's more of that guy. Either way, I disagree that he's a turnstile.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:12 AM   #177
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I don't even think they're signing Cam Robinson I think people are gonna be hurt when it's Tyron Smith.
Tyron Smith makes more sense cap wise. We need a guy to come in here and pug the hole in the dam for a year or two as we draft and develop a LT. In a year or two this team needs to have a guy on a rookie contract playing at LT to make the books work.
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We received a 3rd round pick in the following year’s draft for a really good CB in his prime. I think we actually did pretty well with this trade.
We did ****ing fantastic with that trade too. It's a very early 3rd. Zero chance we get that last year.

If you don't like the trade, you're not factoring in the money. The Titans had to pay Sneed and give up a quality pick. They didn't intend to do that.
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Old 03-05-2025, 11:13 AM   #179
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Yeah I think people are caught up in us getting some top 5 elite LT.

While that would be nice, truth be told, we don’t need it.

We need Orlando Brown level play.

The most important thing to me to get out of the LT isn’t even necessarily their play on the field. It’s if Patrick mentally trusts them.

OBJr was far from perfect, but he was serviceable and Patrick trusted him and rarely lost his head like he has in so many games the last couple years.

I think when evaluating OBJr we underestimated Pat’s trust in him when assessing his overall value.

If Pat trusts the LT, the offense functions and often at a very high level. When he doesn’t, we get headcase Pat and the offense is a mess.

Gotta simply get someone in here that Pat has confidence in. I see no reason why Robinson can’t be that guy.
I know we're not getting an elite LT.

Hell, I'm one of the few that think it's gonna be a wildcard.

We have limited resources - Veach has flat out said the output needs to match the money, they aren't just gonna throw money around to fill a need.

Read: I'm not paying Cam Robinson $20M per for 3 years when I can get the same production or 80-90% of it for way less and be able to grab another asset.

I'll gladly eat crow if I'm wrong - but I'd be absolutely shocked to see us get in a bidding war for Stanley or Robinson with teams with virtually unlimited cap space.

I personally don't think there's much of a difference between Stanley/Robinson and the 2nd tier, especially when you factor in money and injury history.

We'll see what Veach thinks in the coming days/weeks.
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If you all want the turnstile that is Cam Robinson, I sincerely hope it's a contract that's no more than the 2/30 that Jonah Williams got in signing with the Cardinals. I want absolutely ****ing nothing to do with seeing Cam Robinson here but whatever. I don't get paid to make those choices, and if that's what it is I'll have to swallow it.

Please go for an LT in the draft if we sign this turd though. Gives the young guy a year to develop with no real pressure on him before taking over in 2026.
Don't want him. But of the options left I'd rather settle on him than one of the brokedicks that have been bandied about.
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