Chiefs discussing Thuney trade [confirmed]

[siberian khatru]

The Kansas City Chiefs are engaged in trade discussions surrounding 4x Super Bowl champion Joe Thuney, per sources.

Chicago is one of the teams interested in the 2x All-Pro. pic.twitter.com/N7YDehEFDM

— Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) March 5, 2025

Sources: The #Bears are expected to trade for #Chiefs All-Pro G Joe Thuney, as the Chicago continues to load up on the offensive line.

KC gets a bit younger, plus frees up some money to use elsewhere. pic.twitter.com/P0GdAd0WtW

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 5, 2025

Compensation update; Bears are trading a 2026 fourth-round pick to the Chiefs for Pro-Bowl OL Joe Thuney, per source. https://t.co/QAcfND57By

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 5, 2025

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

We won a SB without Thuney last year...

Which gets back to my previous point - I wouldn't extend Smith either.

I'm out of the market for expensive IOL at this point. They really just don't move the needle for me. I've seen this team accomplish too much with rags there or get genuinely good players for minimal investment.

IOL is a sum of its parts - it's not about individual greatness.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Which gets back to my previous point - I wouldn't extend Smith either.

I'm out of the market for expensive IOL at this point. They really just don't move the needle for me. I've seen this team accomplish too much with rags there or get genuinely good players for minimal investment.

IOL is a sum of its parts - it's not about individual greatness.

Doesn’t it get complicated though when you can’t just get fix tackles easily in an offseason? We were so spoiled to get Schwartz on the contract he had. Fish was above average but even that as we know is so hard to find when you’re picking 31-32 every year.

It’d be different if we could sit here and say, “if you let Trey and Thuney both go, you can use the resources to get a great left tackle instead”

And that’s just not all reality. Even with the best talent, Stanley, there’s a chance it backfires in a way that’s at least similar to what we’ve seen with Jawaan. Then you could be looking at an OL that’s vulnerable across the board in some form or fashion.

Just not sure you can over invest in OL and DL, my personal philosophy.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by YontsRBake

I’m not seeing how one year with an all-pro guard wouldn’t be more valuable. With the contracts coming up in 2026 & 2027, 2025 can’t just be conceded as a soft rebuild year.

I believe there has to be a 2nd part to this move and someone else is being signed or traded for but we will see.

Unless the thought is Kingsley could play LG but not RG, Smith right now is a bigger cap hit. Long term have to believe Smith is reaching his prime while the Thuney play is going to drop slightly every year. Seems like they know they could keep 1 but not 2 and choose Smith.

[YontsRBake]

Originally Posted by Shields68

Unless the thought is Kingsley could play LG but not RG, Smith right now is a bigger cap hit. Long term have to believe Smith is reaching his prime while the Thuney play is going to drop slightly every year. Seems like they know they could keep 1 but not 2 and choose Smith.

But long-term could’ve been achieved this year even if they kept Thuney for 2025. Mahomes is likely going to restructure as his contract is designed, so we weren’t that desperate for short-term cap. One year of an all-pro guard is worth way more than a 4th, unless the trade-off is an immediate solution at LT.

[KC_Connection]

Entire offseason’s success or failure hinges on figuring out the LT situation. Will this help with that? Guess we’ll find out soon enough.

[Fishels]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Doesn’t it get complicated though when you can’t just get fix tackles easily in an offseason? We were so spoiled to get Schwartz on the contract he had. Fish was above average but even that as we know is so hard to find when you’re picking 31-32 every year.

It’d be different if we could sit here and say, “if you let Trey and Thuney both go, you can use the resources to get a great left tackle instead”

And that’s just not all reality. Even with the best talent, Stanley, there’s a chance it backfires in a way that’s at least similar to what we’ve seen with Jawaan. Then you could be looking at an OL that’s vulnerable across the board in some form or fashion.

Just not sure you can over invest in OL and DL, my personal philosophy.

This is my thinking. Will miss seeing Thuney.

It’s hard for me to trust Veach but he always seems to do the perfect stuff when we’re “rebuilding”.

Just protect Pat at all costs

[JPH83]

Feels like a fair amount needs to go right for this to work out well. IF we get Stanley and he stays healthy (unlikely) that's a huge upgrade and, at least for a year, a positive short-term answer.

What seems sensible to me is the implicit move to prioritise OT over guard. I also think, realistically, we just have to use some in-house options on the IOL now, and see what we have with Kingsley and Nourzad. It also seems reasonable to assume this was the most realistic way to free up space to get Stanley.

What I like less is the suggestion the money saved on Thuney just gets ploughed back into extending Smith. Yes he's younger, but he's also nowhere near as good. The previous suggestion doing the rounds of extending Thuney and letting Smith walk seemed the preferable option, as I'd rather 3 more years of an ageing Thuney than Smith, tbh.

I still think, realistically, this was another bandaid year. Patching LT up with a vet like DJ or going younger and less experienced but cheaper, and still an upgrade, with someone like Jaylon Moore, but keeping Thuney next to them. I imagine Stanley would be a 1 year deal, 2 max anyway.

Probably not my preference, but I guess we'll see

[Bump]

I understand why they are trading him. But I kind feel bad that Thuney, a 4x champion and nothing but a winner his entire career and now he has to go play for the Bears. He doesn't know what losing is like

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Which gets back to my previous point - I wouldn't extend Smith either.

I'm out of the market for expensive IOL at this point. They really just don't move the needle for me. I've seen this team accomplish too much with rags there or get genuinely good players for minimal investment.

IOL is a sum of its parts - it's not about individual greatness.

I firmly agree.

Hell, maybe Veach trades Smith yet, we have no idea. He might say **** it and spend money elsewhere.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I firmly agree.

Hell, maybe Veach trades Smith yet, we have no idea. He might say **** it and spend money elsewhere.

I think if the strategy is to knock the IOL down to prioritise OTs, I'm pretty happy with the approach.

[staylor26]

I'm honestly shocked that there are people willing to lose both Smith and Thuney in the same offseason after what just happened in the SB...

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by JPH83

Feels like a fair amount needs to go right for this to work out well. IF we get Stanley and he stays healthy (unlikely) that's a huge upgrade and, at least for a year, a positive short-term answer.

What seems sensible to me is the implicit move to prioritise OT over guard. I also think, realistically, we just have to use some in-house options on the IOL now, and see what we have with Kingsley and Nourzad. It also seems reasonable to assume this was the most realistic way to free up space to get Stanley.

What I like less is the suggestion the money saved on Thuney just gets ploughed back into extending Smith. Yes he's younger, but he's also nowhere near as good. The previous suggestion doing the rounds of extending Thuney and letting Smith walk seemed the preferable option, as I'd rather 3 more years of an ageing Thuney than Smith, tbh.

I still think, realistically, this was another bandaid year. Patching LT up with a vet like DJ or going younger and less experienced but cheaper, and still an upgrade, with someone like Jaylon Moore, but keeping Thuney next to them. I imagine Stanley would be a 1 year deal, 2 max anyway.

Probably not my preference, but I guess we'll see

I don't understand this at all. All that needs to happen for this to "work out well" is Kingsley to be a cheap viable replacement.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Entire offseason’s success or failure hinges on figuring out the LT situation. Will this help with that? Guess we’ll find out soon enough.

Really have a head start b/c it was the same way after last season. Only coming off a Super Bowl victory, vs a blowout Super Bowl loss, tends to put things in a different petspective.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Do you believe there's an easier position to replace?

Salaries are a product of timing and the market at the moment a deal is reached.

I'm serious - what position is easier to find an adequate replacement at than guard?

Safety maybe? Not saying that guards are like LTs, but it makes you wonder why their salaries have skyrocketed vs just drafting a replacement for them. Zero reason for teams to pay guards what they are paying them.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I'm honestly shocked that there are people willing to lose both Smith and Thuney in the same offseason after what just happened after the SB...

My heart says to get rid of all of these ****ers.

My mind knows that’s just not really possible and likely to make us worse overall.

I’m still annoyed, though. LV we had an excuse. Everyone on the OL was a backup and/or playing out of position. In LIX, that was only true for the left side of the line, while both the left and right got completely worked. There is no excuse for Trey and Jawaan to have played so poorly.