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Old 03-05-2025, 08:16 AM  
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Old 03-06-2025, 09:40 AM   #331
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My heart says to get rid of all of these ****ers.

My mind knows that’s just not really possible and likely to make us worse overall.

I’m still annoyed, though. LV we had an excuse. Everyone on the OL was a backup and/or playing out of position. In LIX, that was only true for the left side of the line, while both the left and right got completely worked. There is no excuse for Trey and Jawaan to have played so poorly.
Nobody wants to hear this but a good amount of this was Mahomes. He put Jawaan in an impossible situation quite a few times
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Old 03-06-2025, 09:42 AM   #332
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Nobody wants to hear this but a good amount of this was Mahomes. He put Jawaan in an impossible situation quite a few times
I would say the left side of his offensive line getting absolutely destroyed repeatedly was the bigger issue
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My heart says to get rid of all of these ****ers.

My mind knows that’s just not really possible and likely to make us worse overall.

I’m still annoyed, though. LV we had an excuse. Everyone on the OL was a backup and/or playing out of position. In LIX, that was only true for the left side of the line, while both the left and right got completely worked. There is no excuse for Trey and Jawaan to have played so poorly.
Not that they were good, but the right side of the line wasn't what destroyed our entire gameplan and Mahomes confidence. It was the left side.
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Old 03-06-2025, 10:01 AM   #334
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I would say the left side of his offensive line getting absolutely destroyed repeatedly was the bigger issue
Your inability to ever hold your superstar favorite players accountable is hilarious.
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I don't understand this at all. All that needs to happen for this to "work out well" is Kingsley to be a cheap viable replacement.
Well, and we land Stanley and he stays healthy, surely? I mean, if we got a Jaylon Moore I think it could work out OK.
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Well, and we land Stanley and he stays healthy, surely? I mean, if we got a Jaylon Moore I think it could work out OK.
But LT had to be upgraded regardless. That's a separate issue. As long as Kingsley is solid, trading Thuney and getting cap space will work out well.
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Your inability to ever hold your superstar favorite players accountable is hilarious.
The ironic thing is the fans that were convinced we were going to lose 15 of 17 games this year, posted it, and knew we would lose each time are the same fans that won't give any fault or criticism of Mahomes.

I'm not able to decode the logic of it. Is it just being contrarian? The people convinced we were going to lose all year, with Mahomes, now are convinced it's not possible we lost because of Mahomes.

Anyone with an explanation I'm willing to give it time. I honestly don't understand.
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I would say the left side of his offensive line getting absolutely destroyed repeatedly was the bigger issue
Mahomes fleeing clean pockets makes him vulnerable and guys like Trey Smith get dinged with a pressure bc their guy hits Mahomes. Eagles saw this and had thier DE’s fake going up field then cut back inside when Mahomes stepped up.



Mahomes needs to work on staying in the pocket. He was really good at this in 2022. But yes talent at LT and WR will help with this.
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I'm honestly shocked that there are people willing to lose both Smith and Thuney in the same offseason after what just happened in the SB...
Happened with them on the field though.

I'm either way on it. I think keeping the right side together is fine, but if/until Pat gets back to being comfortable.....I don't think it matters if it's this group or you and I out there.
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Mahomes fleeing clean pockets makes him vulnerable and guys like Trey Smith get dinged with a pressure bc their guy hits Mahomes. Eagles saw this and had thier DE’s fake going up field then cut back inside when Mahomes stepped up.
Yup. When the strength of your line is up the middle and both tackles suck yer' gonna' step up or scramble up the middle. They were patient, let the bull rush close in around him and just waited for him to get antsy. I think he had 4 sacks that were damned near identical. Constrict outside, be patient, come off your block and pinch the middle.
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I'm honestly shocked that there are people willing to lose both Smith and Thuney in the same offseason after what just happened in the SB...
No kidding there.

Some think it’s like Madden. Just replace some 90 ovr guards with some 70s and it will be fine.

Reality doesn’t work that way.
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Happened with them on the field though.

I'm either way on it. I think keeping the right side together is fine, but if/until Pat gets back to being comfortable.....I don't think it matters if it's this group or you and I out there.
By that logic, everybody can ****ing go, because they all ****ing sucked outside of Xavier Worthy.
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By that logic, everybody can ****ing go, because they all ****ing sucked outside of Xavier Worthy.
By that logic Kelce is now a 45 TE that can't even chip block. He may have had the least impressive day of anyone on the field.
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Mahomes fleeing clean pockets makes him vulnerable and guys like Trey Smith get dinged with a pressure bc their guy hits Mahomes. Eagles saw this and had thier DE’s fake going up field then cut back inside when Mahomes stepped up.



Mahomes needs to work on staying in the pocket. He was really good at this in 2022. But yes talent at LT and WR will help with this.
Getting Rice back will be a major addition. They’ll sign some value FA too, which will help. With how Worthy came on late, the offense would’ve really been something with Rice and Brown in there all year.

Obviously, LT would’ve hurt regardless.
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Obviously, LT would’ve hurt regardless.
If we had a healthy Brown and Rice all year someone would have been open, regularly, within 3 seconds. Pat wouldn't have had to eat the football.
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