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pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-13-2025, 11:03 AM

Let's discuss how we think each AFC team has done so far this offseason and if they project as better, worse, or about the same entering the draft (where the champion of the conference will ultimately be determined)

AFC West

Chiefs: Better. My main reason actually has a lot to do with how much bad luck the offense had last year - it would be hard not to improve based on that alone. But it appears LT has some stability, although I'm not sure they're done adding there. The WR trio is one of the best in all of football, though they've yet to play a game together. The Fulton signing is my favorite because it's a force multiplier, allowing Trent to go back to the Star/Nickel role where he can impact games at an elite level and Connor plays Safety. We're a Charles Omenihu away from being in a really great spot entering the draft.

Chargers: Same. Feels like much the same team with the same limitations that will get them bounced in January. They're trying to do it the right way though, building through the draft. May be some short term pain for some long term gain. They need more speed on O.

Broncos: Better. Hate to say that I largely really like what Payton has done so far. They're rolling the dice on some ex-49ers with health question marks, but the defense is set up to be top-five once again. Nix and how he handles the sophomore year is critical, but this looks like a sure-fire playoff team.

Raiders: Better. This is only about the QB, by getting Geno they HAVE to be better. Still not ready to compete at the highest level and won't be for awhile.

AFC East

Bills: Slightly better. This one could easily be "worse" once Joey Bosa has his inevitable long-term injury. Beane did his normal thing, kept his own guys on reasonable contracts. I don't love switching Amari Cooper and Mack Hollins out for Josh Palmer, but maybe I'm stupid. Overall they're betting that their core guys can finally get it done in Jan. Must have a great draft.

Patriots: Much better. Look, they've paid out the nose and a lot of these deals won't age well. But they are much better on paper with these new players. They will win at minimum three more games this yr under Vrabel. If Maye is legit, they are wild card contenders.

Dolphins: Worse. A lot of bad contracts are finally catching up to them. Mike McDaniels days are numbered, just like Tyreek's.

Jets: Worse. Coaching may get them further along this year, but the roster is not any better. I'm not a Justin Fields believer. This team won't be in the playoffs, AGAIN.

AFC North

Ravens: Same. Their only addition is Hopkins, but they kept the Left Tackle. Haven't lost anyone of consequence. This is as same as same gets. Great organization will probably have a nice draft and be right back in the playoffs.

Steelers: Better. Rodgers will be an improvement when he inevitably signs here. Love the Metcalf addition, knocks Pickens down a peg. They'll still struggle to win a playoff game however, if they make it.

Bengals Worse. I'm dying on the hill that they're using the wrong scape goats. Lou Anarumo was the biggest reason for their deep playoff runs, and they didn't continue to give him the requisite talent to succeed. Now, they're putting all their eggs into the same basket that hasn't got it done yet. Burrow will get his stats, but this defense will stink. If Hendrickson walks, they miss the playoffs again.

Browns Better. Kept Myles Garrett and will most definitely improve at QB. Could contend for playoffs as they seem so unpredictable year to year.

AFC South

Texans: Worse. Traded away Tunsil, that alone makes it this for now. I do like the depth they've added on DL, as they will need to draft offense if they want to fix last year's woes and get Stroud back on track.

Jaguars Same. Nothing really to note here. Still a lacking roster that will bank on coaching to maximize Trevor and contend in the worst AFC division.

Titans Same. Dan Moore was an overpay, but does raise the floor of the offense. QB is the ?. I foresee this being the last year of Brian Callahan before Mike Borgonzi might just try to pluck Steve Spagnuolo from us.

Colts Slightly better. I like the adds of Charvarius Ward and Cam Bynum in a secondary that really needed some dogs back there. QB is still going to hold them back and finally end the Chris Ballard era next January.

staylor26 · 03-13-2025, 08:02 PM

Rice and Worthy stepped up and became WR1s as rookies with great playoff performances.

Now they get to pair up as veterans that complement each other perfectly. Hollywood is just the icing on the cake.

Kelce gets to be in the role he should've been in last year.

Only a bundle of sticks that wants to bitch and complain endlessly moving from WRs to OTs to Nagy could not be optimistic about this offense.

MahomesMagic · 03-13-2025, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Yes a rookie Worthy in his first few games. You're talking about a handful of games, where the Chiefs also didn't have Hollywood on top of Worthy going through some growing pains.

Anybody that isn't a disingenuous bundle of sticks can see the difference in Worthu from the first few games to today. Now he gets a full offseason.

You've been downplaying how good Worthy was down the stretch because you're a full blown hater. You're not even a real Chiefs fan.

Being dimwitted and slow doesn't make you a better fan.

RunKC · 03-13-2025, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

You've been downplaying how good Worthy was down the stretch because you're a full blown hater. You're not even a real Chiefs fan.

15 year old in Hawaii that became a Chiefs fan when Mahomes was drafted. Definition of bandwagon

staylor26 · 03-13-2025, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Being dimwitted and slow doesn't make you a better fan.

You joined right around the time Mahomes became a Chief. You've constantly displayed that your loyalty is with Mahomes and him only. You're a ****ing fake Chiefs fan dude, just own it.

staylor26 · 03-13-2025, 08:07 PM

Imagine calling Mahomes the GOAT then turning around and saying you aren't even confident he can out together top 3 offense with Rice, Worthy, Hollywood, Kelce, Gray, a healthy Pacheco, and likely a high pick at RB.

MahomesMagic · 03-13-2025, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

15 year old in Hawaii that became a Chiefs fan when Mahomes was drafted. Definition of bandwagon

I don't care that you are a fan because you were born into it.

I was a Mahomes fan in college and I became a Chiefs fan because I wanted to watch him in the NFL.

There are plenty of us on this board and we don't care what some miserable codger like you thinks.

You're a dinosaur.

MahomesMagic · 03-13-2025, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Imagine calling Mahomes the GOAT then turning around and saying you aren't even confident he can out together top 3 offense with Rice, Worthy, Hollywood, Kelce, Gray, a healthy Pacheco, and likely a high pick at RB.

Even Brady had years like that when Patriots offense got stale when he was in his early 30's.

I didn't say he couldn't do it.

I would love Reid to come back energized and relegate Nagy to cheerleading. If that happens, awesome.

Delano · 03-13-2025, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I don't care that you are a fan because you were born into it.

I was a Mahomes fan in college and I became a Chiefs fan because I wanted to watch him in the NFL.

There are plenty of us on this board and we don't care what some miserable codger like you thinks.

You're a dinosaur.

Many members of this board became Chiefs fans when Montana came over from San Francisco. These guys are just hating on different generations. You’re welcome aboard the ship.

Chris Meck · 03-13-2025, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I don't care that you are a fan because you were born into it.

I was a Mahomes fan in college and I became a Chiefs fan because I wanted to watch him in the NFL.

There are plenty of us on this board and we don't care what some miserable codger like you thinks.

You're a dinosaur.

Better go study for your ACT's, bud.

staylor26 · 03-13-2025, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Even Brady had years like that when Patriots offense got stale when he was in his early 30's.

I didn't say he couldn't do it.

I would love Reid to come back energized and relegate Nagy to cheerleading. If that happens, awesome.

JFC you're comparing this group of weapons to the dogshit that Brady had then?

You're such a disingenuous loser.

Just say it, you don't think Rice and Worthy are that good. That's the only way anything you're saying makes any sense whatsoever.

MahomesMagic · 03-13-2025, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delano

Many members of this board became Chiefs fans when Montana came over from San Francisco. These guys are just hating on different generations. You’re welcome aboard the ship.

I'm a Chiefs fan now and will continue so even after Mahomes retires.

Of course it will suck though unless we get another star at QB.

staylor26 · 03-13-2025, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delano

Many members of this board became Chiefs fans when Montana came over from San Francisco. These guys are just hating on different generations. You’re welcome aboard the ship.

You don't speak for the rest of us bundle of sticks.

RunKC · 03-13-2025, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26

Imagine calling Mahomes the GOAT then turning around and saying you aren't even confident he can out together top 3 offense with Rice, Worthy, Hollywood, Kelce, Gray, a healthy Pacheco, and likely a high pick at RB.

The kid wasn’t here when it was hard being a Chiefs fan and didn’t earn what the members of this board did. He didn’t live through the pain of all the playoff losses or Save Our Chiefs movement or any of it pre-Mahomes.

He’s as bandwagon as the Swifties and should be treated as such. He’ll go latch onto another franchise that is the best in the NFL at some point soon enough. They always do.

MahomesMagic · 03-13-2025, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Better go study for your ACT's, bud.

Never took those. Took the SAT and had higher scores than the average at Harvard.

So good enough.

Delano · 03-13-2025, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26

You don't speak for the rest of us bundle of sticks.

Getting angry again. Gonna choke your wife a little tonight? Maybe kick the dog or yell at your kid?

03-13-2025, 11:03 AM
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6629447	AFC Stock Up / Stock Down, Post-Free Agency Let's discuss how we think each AFC team has done so far this offseason and if they project as better, worse, or about the same entering the draft (where the champion of the conference will ultimately be determined) AFC West Chiefs: Better. My main reason actually has a lot to do with how much bad luck the offense had last year - it would be hard not to improve based on that alone. But it appears LT has some stability, although I'm not sure they're done adding there. The WR trio is one of the best in all of football, though they've yet to play a game together. The Fulton signing is my favorite because it's a force multiplier, allowing Trent to go back to the Star/Nickel role where he can impact games at an elite level and Connor plays Safety. We're a Charles Omenihu away from being in a really great spot entering the draft. Chargers: Same. Feels like much the same team with the same limitations that will get them bounced in January. They're trying to do it the right way though, building through the draft. May be some short term pain for some long term gain. They need more speed on O. Broncos: Better. Hate to say that I largely really like what Payton has done so far. They're rolling the dice on some ex-49ers with health question marks, but the defense is set up to be top-five once again. Nix and how he handles the sophomore year is critical, but this looks like a sure-fire playoff team. Raiders: Better. This is only about the QB, by getting Geno they HAVE to be better. Still not ready to compete at the highest level and won't be for awhile. AFC East Bills: Slightly better. This one could easily be "worse" once Joey Bosa has his inevitable long-term injury. Beane did his normal thing, kept his own guys on reasonable contracts. I don't love switching Amari Cooper and Mack Hollins out for Josh Palmer, but maybe I'm stupid. Overall they're betting that their core guys can finally get it done in Jan. Must have a great draft. Patriots: Much better. Look, they've paid out the nose and a lot of these deals won't age well. But they are much better on paper with these new players. They will win at minimum three more games this yr under Vrabel. If Maye is legit, they are wild card contenders. Dolphins: Worse. A lot of bad contracts are finally catching up to them. Mike McDaniels days are numbered, just like Tyreek's. Jets: Worse. Coaching may get them further along this year, but the roster is not any better. I'm not a Justin Fields believer. This team won't be in the playoffs, AGAIN. AFC North Ravens: Same. Their only addition is Hopkins, but they kept the Left Tackle. Haven't lost anyone of consequence. This is as same as same gets. Great organization will probably have a nice draft and be right back in the playoffs. Steelers: Better. Rodgers will be an improvement when he inevitably signs here. Love the Metcalf addition, knocks Pickens down a peg. They'll still struggle to win a playoff game however, if they make it. Bengals Worse. I'm dying on the hill that they're using the wrong scape goats. Lou Anarumo was the biggest reason for their deep playoff runs, and they didn't continue to give him the requisite talent to succeed. Now, they're putting all their eggs into the same basket that hasn't got it done yet. Burrow will get his stats, but this defense will stink. If Hendrickson walks, they miss the playoffs again. Browns Better. Kept Myles Garrett and will most definitely improve at QB. Could contend for playoffs as they seem so unpredictable year to year. AFC South Texans: Worse. Traded away Tunsil, that alone makes it this for now. I do like the depth they've added on DL, as they will need to draft offense if they want to fix last year's woes and get Stroud back on track. Jaguars Same. Nothing really to note here. Still a lacking roster that will bank on coaching to maximize Trevor and contend in the worst AFC division. Titans Same. Dan Moore was an overpay, but does raise the floor of the offense. QB is the ?. I foresee this being the last year of Brian Callahan before Mike Borgonzi might just try to pluck Steve Spagnuolo from us. Colts Slightly better. I like the adds of Charvarius Ward and Cam Bynum in a secondary that really needed some dogs back there. QB is still going to hold them back and finally end the Chris Ballard era next January.
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staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-1920960	Rice and Worthy stepped up and became WR1s as rookies with great playoff performances. Now they get to pair up as veterans that complement each other perfectly. Hollywood is just the icing on the cake. Kelce gets to be in the role he should've been in last year. Only a bundle of sticks that wants to bitch and complain endlessly moving from WRs to OTs to Nagy could not be optimistic about this offense.
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staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-1920960	Imagine calling Mahomes the GOAT then turning around and saying you aren't even confident he can out together top 3 offense with Rice, Worthy, Hollywood, Kelce, Gray, a healthy Pacheco, and likely a high pick at RB.
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