Football AFC Stock Up / Stock Down, Post-Free Agency - Page 5

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-13-2025, 11:03 AM

Let's discuss how we think each AFC team has done so far this offseason and if they project as better, worse, or about the same entering the draft (where the champion of the conference will ultimately be determined)

AFC West

Chiefs: Better. My main reason actually has a lot to do with how much bad luck the offense had last year - it would be hard not to improve based on that alone. But it appears LT has some stability, although I'm not sure they're done adding there. The WR trio is one of the best in all of football, though they've yet to play a game together. The Fulton signing is my favorite because it's a force multiplier, allowing Trent to go back to the Star/Nickel role where he can impact games at an elite level and Connor plays Safety. We're a Charles Omenihu away from being in a really great spot entering the draft.

Chargers: Same. Feels like much the same team with the same limitations that will get them bounced in January. They're trying to do it the right way though, building through the draft. May be some short term pain for some long term gain. They need more speed on O.

Broncos: Better. Hate to say that I largely really like what Payton has done so far. They're rolling the dice on some ex-49ers with health question marks, but the defense is set up to be top-five once again. Nix and how he handles the sophomore year is critical, but this looks like a sure-fire playoff team.

Raiders: Better. This is only about the QB, by getting Geno they HAVE to be better. Still not ready to compete at the highest level and won't be for awhile.

AFC East

Bills: Slightly better. This one could easily be "worse" once Joey Bosa has his inevitable long-term injury. Beane did his normal thing, kept his own guys on reasonable contracts. I don't love switching Amari Cooper and Mack Hollins out for Josh Palmer, but maybe I'm stupid. Overall they're betting that their core guys can finally get it done in Jan. Must have a great draft.

Patriots: Much better. Look, they've paid out the nose and a lot of these deals won't age well. But they are much better on paper with these new players. They will win at minimum three more games this yr under Vrabel. If Maye is legit, they are wild card contenders.

Dolphins: Worse. A lot of bad contracts are finally catching up to them. Mike McDaniels days are numbered, just like Tyreek's.

Jets: Worse. Coaching may get them further along this year, but the roster is not any better. I'm not a Justin Fields believer. This team won't be in the playoffs, AGAIN.

AFC North

Ravens: Same. Their only addition is Hopkins, but they kept the Left Tackle. Haven't lost anyone of consequence. This is as same as same gets. Great organization will probably have a nice draft and be right back in the playoffs.

Steelers: Better. Rodgers will be an improvement when he inevitably signs here. Love the Metcalf addition, knocks Pickens down a peg. They'll still struggle to win a playoff game however, if they make it.

Bengals Worse. I'm dying on the hill that they're using the wrong scape goats. Lou Anarumo was the biggest reason for their deep playoff runs, and they didn't continue to give him the requisite talent to succeed. Now, they're putting all their eggs into the same basket that hasn't got it done yet. Burrow will get his stats, but this defense will stink. If Hendrickson walks, they miss the playoffs again.

Browns Better. Kept Myles Garrett and will most definitely improve at QB. Could contend for playoffs as they seem so unpredictable year to year.

AFC South

Texans: Worse. Traded away Tunsil, that alone makes it this for now. I do like the depth they've added on DL, as they will need to draft offense if they want to fix last year's woes and get Stroud back on track.

Jaguars Same. Nothing really to note here. Still a lacking roster that will bank on coaching to maximize Trevor and contend in the worst AFC division.

Titans Same. Dan Moore was an overpay, but does raise the floor of the offense. QB is the ?. I foresee this being the last year of Brian Callahan before Mike Borgonzi might just try to pluck Steve Spagnuolo from us.

Colts Slightly better. I like the adds of Charvarius Ward and Cam Bynum in a secondary that really needed some dogs back there. QB is still going to hold them back and finally end the Chris Ballard era next January.

RunKC · 03-13-2025, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Better go study for your ACT's, bud.

Read his posts in DC. A lot of them are calling people “low T” repeatedly. And we all remember him using the Alpha card repeatedly to shit all over Worthy.

I would bet my house that this kid isn’t even old enough to drive

MahomesMagic · 03-13-2025, 08:17 PM

Worthy was an Alpha in the Super Bowl.

staylor26 · 03-13-2025, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano

Getting angry again. Gonna choke your wife a little tonight? Maybe kick the dog or yell at your kid?

Imagine going to bat for a "fan" that would shit on anybody all the way to Andy to protect Patrick because he's not an actual fan of the team. Anybody that has been paying attention the last few years knows what this guy is.

The truth is you're just going to bat for him because it's me he's going back and forth with right now. That's how pathetic and petty you are.

MahomesMagic · 03-13-2025, 08:24 PM

I think the defense has a good chance at being top 5 now and Veach is probably going heavy defense in the draft.

I would really like Andy to come back and get creative. Don't run the offense like the last few years.

Delano · 03-13-2025, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Imagine going to bat for a "fan" that would shit on anybody all the way to Andy to protect Patrick because he's not an actual fan of the team. Anybody that has been paying attention the last few years knows what this guy is.

The truth is you're just going to bat for him because it's me he's going back and forth with right now. That's how pathetic and petty you are.

The funniest thing I’ve seen here recently is when DJs Nut and you got into a pissing match over something that doesn’t matter in the slightest. And you backed down like the little hand-wringing cuck that you are. The totem pole of drafturbators is very important to you but your ranking on it is so low.

RedinTexas · 03-13-2025, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

The kid wasn’t here when it was hard being a Chiefs fan and didn’t earn what the members of this board did. He didn’t live through the pain of all the playoff losses or Save Our Chiefs movement or any of it pre-Mahomes.

He’s as bandwagon as the Swifties and should be treated as such. He’ll go latch onto another franchise that is the best in the NFL at some point soon enough. They always do.

I'm approaching the end of my 5th decade as a Chiefs fan and lived through all the misery you're talking about, but only joined the board a few years back. I can't see anything particularly special about having endured all the misery the Chiefs brought us for so long, except for the fact that it made the SB wins so much more special. For those that are only recent converts, I hope you don't have to go through the pain and torture the rest of us did.

ETA - Hah! I posted this a week ago and only just noticed that it's been almost 6 decades, not 5.

staylor26 · 03-13-2025, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano

The funniest thing I’ve seen here recently is when DJs Nut and you got into a pissing match over something that doesn’t matter in the slightest. And you backed down like the little hand-wringing cuck that you are. The totem pole of drafturbators is very important to you but your ranking on it is so low.

Backed down? You mean when I told him to suck my ****ing dick?

Yea, sure backed down there. I have a level of respect for DJ, and I consider him some kind of online "friend", but your definition of backing down is hilarious.

I never once backed down. Not even in the slightest.

How about this, how about you show your work. How exactly did I "back down"? Let's see the receipts.

**RealSNR** · 03-13-2025, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano

Many members of this board became Chiefs fans when Montana came over from San Francisco. These guys are just hating on different generations. You’re welcome aboard the ship.

You think he's going to stick around when Mahomes retires?

If he doesn't, he's only a slightly better version of Sandy Cheeks.

GloucesterChief · 03-13-2025, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I think the defense has a good chance at being top 5 now and Veach is probably going heavy defense in the draft.

I would really like Andy to come back and get creative. Don't run the offense like the last few years.

I am hoping that Minshew can help with that. He specifically went to Wazzu to learn under Leach and was going to go into coaching after he was done. He thought it was his last chance to play.

htismaqe · 03-14-2025, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas

I'm approaching the end of my 5th decade as a Chiefs fan and lived through all the misery you're talking about, but only joined the board a few years back. I can't see anything particularly special about having endured all the misery the Chiefs brought us for so long, except for the fact that it made the SB wins so much more special. For those that are only recent converts, I hope you don't have to go through the pain and torture the rest of us did.

The fact that the Super Bowl wins mean more is important. I don't necessarily disagree with you but the noobs don't have the perspective you and I have. The wins don't mean as much and the natural offshoot of that is that the losses mean MORE.

There's a lot of people here that don't appreciate how truly lucky we are.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-15-2025, 10:55 AM

I know it got posted in the Chargers hype thread but ICYMI, Cowherd picked the Chargers to win the west and had us the 7 seed.

And the explanation was every bit as a bad and more as you’d expect. Just hoping the Chiefs see it.

MahomesMagic · 03-15-2025, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

I am hoping that Minshew can help with that. He specifically went to Wazzu to learn under Leach and was going to go into coaching after he was done. He thought it was his last chance to play.

I want to see Minshew's facial expressions at some of these Nagy play calls in game.

scho63 · 03-15-2025, 07:51 PM

I'm not sure we got better overall.

I hate to say this but I think the Raiders are going to be sneaky good and surprise a lot of people.

I think the Chargers are overrated and will be average.

The Broncos could go either way.

Jets, Titans, and Jaguars all trainwrecks.

Steelers got better w Metcalf but will go BACKWARDS if they sign Rodgers.

Texans D will keep them in many games but CJ Stroud gotta deliver more.

Miami's wheels are coming off and I see a big decline for them.

Buffalo and Ravens kept teams intact so they will be playoff bound again.

Browns will under deliver as always.

Patriots will be better but may take a few years to get much better.

Colts underwhelming.

Bengals need to get off to a better start but their defense still sucks. They should be back in the playoffs and Joe Burrow is the best pocket passer in the NFL.

RedinTexas · 03-15-2025, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

I hate to say this but I think the Raiders are going to be sneaky good and surprise a lot of people.

I'm worried about you.

RunKC · 03-15-2025, 09:12 PM

At the end of the season the 3 best teams in the AFC were the Ravens, Bills and Chiefs

Today the 3 best teams in the AFC are the Ravens, Bills and Chiefs

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pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6629447	AFC Stock Up / Stock Down, Post-Free Agency Let's discuss how we think each AFC team has done so far this offseason and if they project as better, worse, or about the same entering the draft (where the champion of the conference will ultimately be determined) AFC West Chiefs: Better. My main reason actually has a lot to do with how much bad luck the offense had last year - it would be hard not to improve based on that alone. But it appears LT has some stability, although I'm not sure they're done adding there. The WR trio is one of the best in all of football, though they've yet to play a game together. The Fulton signing is my favorite because it's a force multiplier, allowing Trent to go back to the Star/Nickel role where he can impact games at an elite level and Connor plays Safety. We're a Charles Omenihu away from being in a really great spot entering the draft. Chargers: Same. Feels like much the same team with the same limitations that will get them bounced in January. They're trying to do it the right way though, building through the draft. May be some short term pain for some long term gain. They need more speed on O. Broncos: Better. Hate to say that I largely really like what Payton has done so far. They're rolling the dice on some ex-49ers with health question marks, but the defense is set up to be top-five once again. Nix and how he handles the sophomore year is critical, but this looks like a sure-fire playoff team. Raiders: Better. This is only about the QB, by getting Geno they HAVE to be better. Still not ready to compete at the highest level and won't be for awhile. AFC East Bills: Slightly better. This one could easily be "worse" once Joey Bosa has his inevitable long-term injury. Beane did his normal thing, kept his own guys on reasonable contracts. I don't love switching Amari Cooper and Mack Hollins out for Josh Palmer, but maybe I'm stupid. Overall they're betting that their core guys can finally get it done in Jan. Must have a great draft. Patriots: Much better. Look, they've paid out the nose and a lot of these deals won't age well. But they are much better on paper with these new players. They will win at minimum three more games this yr under Vrabel. If Maye is legit, they are wild card contenders. Dolphins: Worse. A lot of bad contracts are finally catching up to them. Mike McDaniels days are numbered, just like Tyreek's. Jets: Worse. Coaching may get them further along this year, but the roster is not any better. I'm not a Justin Fields believer. This team won't be in the playoffs, AGAIN. AFC North Ravens: Same. Their only addition is Hopkins, but they kept the Left Tackle. Haven't lost anyone of consequence. This is as same as same gets. Great organization will probably have a nice draft and be right back in the playoffs. Steelers: Better. Rodgers will be an improvement when he inevitably signs here. Love the Metcalf addition, knocks Pickens down a peg. They'll still struggle to win a playoff game however, if they make it. Bengals Worse. I'm dying on the hill that they're using the wrong scape goats. Lou Anarumo was the biggest reason for their deep playoff runs, and they didn't continue to give him the requisite talent to succeed. Now, they're putting all their eggs into the same basket that hasn't got it done yet. Burrow will get his stats, but this defense will stink. If Hendrickson walks, they miss the playoffs again. Browns Better. Kept Myles Garrett and will most definitely improve at QB. Could contend for playoffs as they seem so unpredictable year to year. AFC South Texans: Worse. Traded away Tunsil, that alone makes it this for now. I do like the depth they've added on DL, as they will need to draft offense if they want to fix last year's woes and get Stroud back on track. Jaguars Same. Nothing really to note here. Still a lacking roster that will bank on coaching to maximize Trevor and contend in the worst AFC division. Titans Same. Dan Moore was an overpay, but does raise the floor of the offense. QB is the ?. I foresee this being the last year of Brian Callahan before Mike Borgonzi might just try to pluck Steve Spagnuolo from us. Colts Slightly better. I like the adds of Charvarius Ward and Cam Bynum in a secondary that really needed some dogs back there. QB is still going to hold them back and finally end the Chris Ballard era next January.
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scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $-740000	I'm not sure we got better overall. I hate to say this but I think the Raiders are going to be sneaky good and surprise a lot of people. I think the Chargers are overrated and will be average. The Broncos could go either way. Jets, Titans, and Jaguars all trainwrecks. Steelers got better w Metcalf but will go BACKWARDS if they sign Rodgers. Texans D will keep them in many games but CJ Stroud gotta deliver more. Miami's wheels are coming off and I see a big decline for them. Buffalo and Ravens kept teams intact so they will be playoff bound again. Browns will under deliver as always. Patriots will be better but may take a few years to get much better. Colts underwhelming. Bengals need to get off to a better start but their defense still sucks. They should be back in the playoffs and Joe Burrow is the best pocket passer in the NFL. __________________ *"The only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs you a WHOLE LOT more!"* ~Redd Foxx~ ~~2018 2019 2020 20212022 2023~~ 2024 Adopt a Chief - Clark Hunt and Brett Veach "The men who drafted Patrick Mahomes"
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