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Old 03-17-2025, 07:29 AM  
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Texans pay CB Derek Stingley $30m per year
…. And just like that, McDuffie being trade bait becomes all the more possible

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Record deal: Texans All-Pro CB Derek Stingley Jr has agreed to a three-year, $90 million extension including $89 million guaranteed. At $30M base value per year, Stingley is now the highest paid defensive back in NFL history. The CB market has been completely reset.

Deal negotiated by David Mulugheta of Athletes First.
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Old 03-17-2025, 09:59 AM   #31
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Old 03-17-2025, 10:04 AM   #32
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You’re looking at it all wrong man.

They aren’t moving Trent to protect him.

They’re moving Trent to save the pass defense.
It’s gonna come down to McDuffie. It really is. Do you want to still make filthy money at $26 million or do you have to have $30 million?

Veach needs to get this decision done now bc Sauce Gardner is probably gonna get $31 million making it even more untenable.

Get this figured out now Veach.
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Old 03-17-2025, 10:05 AM   #33
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Exactly.

People have to stop viewing slot CB with negative connotation.

Not having Trent in the slot last year got us torched game after game by players in that position.

If you can’t get at least a 1 or at least a proven starter at LT DE or WR, it’s not worth trading him.

He’s everything you want in a player on and off the field. That “star” role he plays in the secondary is the most valuable piece of a Steve Spagnuolo secondary.
I think the only "negative" is the rarity of physical attributes needed to play on the boundary. Simply a matter of winning the genetic lottery, just like tackles with 34.75" arms. They may not be more skilled, but there are just so few that have certain key phys attributes, they are just in greater demand.
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Old 03-17-2025, 11:12 AM   #34
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It’s gonna come down to McDuffie. It really is. Do you want to still make filthy money at $26 million or do you have to have $30 million?

Veach needs to get this decision done now bc Sauce Gardner is probably gonna get $31 million making it even more untenable.

Get this figured out now Veach.
And the leverage is pretty substantial now.

He makes $2.7 million in base salary this year. So, what, $150K per week as a game check? Nice money, to be sure.

But if you offer him a $40 million signing bonus in what would amount to $100 million or so in effective guarantees....man, that's gonna turn his head.

That's money NOW. In his pocket tomorrow.

Or he can make about $15 million over the next two seasons. He could more than double that tomorrow with the stroke of a pen. And have it in his bank account that evening.

That's gotta mean something.
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Old 03-17-2025, 11:14 AM   #35
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I think the only "negative" is the rarity of physical attributes needed to play on the boundary. Simply a matter of winning the genetic lottery, just like tackles with 34.75" arms. They may not be more skilled, but there are just so few that have certain key phys attributes, they are just in greater demand.
Eh...they're not more rare on the boundary, they're just different.

First step quickness and ability to change direction (not to mention gear down) are straight up physical traits and they are MASSIVE for an NCB. Every bit as important as length on the boundary.

And there aren't many people that have those at a premier level either. Fewer than there are guys who are 6'2" and can run fast these days.

I just feel like some have an outdated view of what a NCB really is these days. It's not just some guy who couldn't hack it on the outside. Those guys have very rare skills of their own that are unique to them and the position.
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Eh...they're not more rare on the boundary, they're just different.

First step quickness and ability to change direction (not to mention gear down) are straight up physical traits and they are MASSIVE for an NCB. Every bit as important as length on the boundary.

And there aren't many people that have those at a premier level either. Fewer than there are guys who are 6'2" and can run fast these days.

I just feel like some have an outdated view of what a NCB really is these days. It's not just some guy who couldn't hack it on the outside. Those guys have very rare skills of their own that are unique to them and the position.
There are still people that don't understand a NCB is a starter in today's league.
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As suggested earlier, I think this impacts George's second contract with the Chiefs more than McDuffie's. We aren't losing McDuffie.

If George has an elite year (10+ sacks & shitton of pressures) then we gotta do what we gotta do.

But if George has another good/great year and demands elite money, then Veach will explore all options.
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Old 03-17-2025, 11:21 AM   #39
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I’m to the point where I just execute his 5th year option then tag him for a season.

And just start drafting corners every year if this is going to be the going rate.
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As suggested earlier, I think this impacts George's second contract with the Chiefs more than McDuffie's. We aren't losing McDuffie.

If George has an elite year (10+ sacks & shitton of pressures) then we gotta do what we gotta do.

But if George has another good/great year and demands elite money, then Veach will explore all options.
Yup. That was my point.

Don’t trade the All Pro. Trade the very good player.

Trust Veach to keep finding value at DB around the 1 expensive guy.

Address the pass rush in volume, especially after Jones.
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I’m to the point where I just execute his 5th year option then tag him for a season.

And just start drafting corners every year if this is going to be the going rate.
Out of curiosity what do you pay then?
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See if he and his agent wants to stay with the Chiefs or pursue the highest $. If he will take something this off season to an additional 4years/$125 with a $50 million signing bonus. Guaranteed money $75million. He blows out a knee, you are not in cap hell.

But, he will go for the money and go back to the west coast. So this is probably our last year of him on our team. Should get a 1st for him.
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