Bengals pay Chase and Higgins

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Chase is fine. They should have done it much earlier. Tee… I just don’t get. Good get for most teams but not a team with this much money tied up to qb and wr.

Tee is THE perfect #2 to Chase's #1, so there's no mystery as to "why" there. Guarantee Burrow at some point demanded they find a way to keep them both.

It's just too big of a resource drain. You have to have a semblance of a little balance these days. If, IF they can retain Hendrickson, they could have a shot. But if not, nah, they're done before they get started. They'll be a 35ppg offense and have a 10-7 record that gets them bounced in the wild card round 45-41.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Tee is THE perfect #2 to Chase's #1, so there's no mystery as to "why" there. Guarantee Burrow at some point demanded they find a way to keep them both.

It's just too big of a resource drain. You have to have a semblance of a little balance these days. If, IF they can retain Hendrickson, they could have a shot. But if not, nah, they're done before they get started. They'll be a 35ppg offense and have a 10-7 record that gets them bounced in the wild card round 45-41.

Trade Hendrickson and draft well. Make that shitty defense into a top 20 to 15 and they’ve got a shot.

Keeping Hendrickson only makes it harder.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by notorious

Trade Hendrickson and draft well. Make that shitty defense into a top 20 to 15 and they’ve got a shot.

Keeping Hendrickson only makes it harder.

It's going to take a top 15 or so pick to replace his production. This team has big holes everywhere. I don't see how creating yet another helps.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

It's going to take a top 15 or so pick to replace his production. This team has big holes everywhere. I don't see how creating yet another helps.

Frees up cap space to go younger, cheaper.

Think of taking that 10 and turning it into 2 5’s that will replace trash.

Make the entire defense average instead of having just one strong position.


Few teams have the front office smart enough to pull it off.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by notorious

Frees up cap space to go younger, cheaper.

Think of taking that 10 and turning it into 2 5’s that will replace trash.

Make the entire defense average instead of having just one strong position.


Few teams have the front office smart enough to pull it off.

yeah, I'm not seeing that happening

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

It's going to take a top 15 or so pick to replace his production. This team has big holes everywhere. I don't see how creating yet another helps.

It's going to take more than a top 15 pick to replace consecutive 17 sack seasons...it's going to take a shit ton of luck.

Should have traded Higgins for a high 2nd (Patriots?) and used #19 on a WR...extended Hendrickson then back filled the defense.

Higgins annual 900 yards is a lot easier to replace...

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

It's going to take a top 15 or so pick to replace his production. This team has big holes everywhere. I don't see how creating yet another helps.

Huge hole at guard.
Big hole at pass rush, either LDE or DT.
Medium hole at safety.

Logan Wilson will be back this year. Jermaine Pratt is a good 2 down LB but not the 3 down LB he thought he was. They signed Oren Burks from the Eagles so they're ok at LB for this season.

There is still a chance they get one guard in FA and they're sure to draft another one early. Dax Hill and DJ Turner back in the secondary. That leaves them "ok" at CB.

I'd prefer they go safety and guard 1/2 in the draft but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they look ED to boost the pass rush. I can't see them going IDL since they drafted 2 last year and just signed Slaton from GB as a 0/1/2i tech to go with the young guys.

They could sign a guy like Scherff for 2 years and take either Booker in rd 1 or Ratledge in rd 2 and they're fine at guard for a bit, which would still allow them to get a safety in rd 2, though they'd probably have to trade up (which i don't really see).

In any event, they're not so far away that they can't fix last year...with who they get this year. There's no 2 or 3 year rebuilding plan.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by rfaulk34

In any event, they're not so far away that they can't fix last year...with who they get this year. There's no 2 or 3 year rebuilding plan.

As long as all 3 are healthy the Bangles will be competitive. Perhaps playoff wins, perhaps not, but competitive at worst.

Any of those 3 goes down and there isn't enough there to win consistently. Perhaps they draft well enough to round things out on the cheap. That's not been the case since the 80's but perhaps there really is a change going on. Perhaps they play to attack things differently.

Would be the best case for Bangles fans. While I certainly hope you eat shit you definitely deserve better.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by rfaulk34

Huge hole at guard.
Big hole at pass rush, either LDE or DT.
Medium hole at safety.

Logan Wilson will be back this year. Jermaine Pratt is a good 2 down LB but not the 3 down LB he thought he was. They signed Oren Burks from the Eagles so they're ok at LB for this season.

There is still a chance they get one guard in FA and they're sure to draft another one early. Dax Hill and DJ Turner back in the secondary. That leaves them "ok" at CB.

I'd prefer they go safety and guard 1/2 in the draft but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they look ED to boost the pass rush. I can't see them going IDL since they drafted 2 last year and just signed Slaton from GB as a 0/1/2i tech to go with the young guys.

They could sign a guy like Scherff for 2 years and take either Booker in rd 1 or Ratledge in rd 2 and they're fine at guard for a bit, which would still allow them to get a safety in rd 2, though they'd probably have to trade up (which i don't really see).

In any event, they're not so far away that they can't fix last year...with who they get this year. There's no 2 or 3 year rebuilding plan.

I would think if they have another year like last year they would sack Zac Taylor??

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I would think if they have another year like last year they would sack Zac Taylor??

At the end of this past year, i would have poo-poo'd any thought of that.

With the investment they're making this offseason, i'd say missing the PO again would make his seat red hot.

[Bengal Billy]

Originally Posted by rfaulk34

Huge hole at guard.
Big hole at pass rush, either LDE or DT.
Medium hole at safety.

Logan Wilson will be back this year. Jermaine Pratt is a good 2 down LB but not the 3 down LB he thought he was. They signed Oren Burks from the Eagles so they're ok at LB for this season.

There is still a chance they get one guard in FA and they're sure to draft another one early. Dax Hill and DJ Turner back in the secondary. That leaves them "ok" at CB.

I'd prefer they go safety and guard 1/2 in the draft but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they look ED to boost the pass rush. I can't see them going IDL since they drafted 2 last year and just signed Slaton from GB as a 0/1/2i tech to go with the young guys.

They could sign a guy like Scherff for 2 years and take either Booker in rd 1 or Ratledge in rd 2 and they're fine at guard for a bit, which would still allow them to get a safety in rd 2, though they'd probably have to trade up (which i don't really see).

In any event, they're not so far away that they can't fix last year...with who they get this year. There's no 2 or 3 year rebuilding plan.

Yup, that's where I'm at. Guard, Safety, DL

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by notorious

Trade Hendrickson and draft well. Make that shitty defense into a top 20 to 15 and they’ve got a shot.

Keeping Hendrickson only makes it harder.

Trey is already on the books for 18M this year. He's looking for a long term extension. Apparently, they're close but i have no idea about the numbers.

Since Tee is off the tag, they could use it on Trey next year if they wanted to for around 22M (that's this years number for DE). I don't really see him anywhere other than in stripes next year. He's done nothing but speak glowingly about the Bengals and how they've treated him and his family.