Texans pay CB Derek Stingley $30m per year

[pugsnotdrugs19]

…. And just like that, McDuffie being trade bait becomes all the more possible

https://www.threads.net/@adamschefte...cUx0nlC61E-Whw

Record deal: Texans All-Pro CB Derek Stingley Jr has agreed to a three-year, $90 million extension including $89 million guaranteed. At $30M base value per year, Stingley is now the highest paid defensive back in NFL history. The CB market has been completely reset.

Deal negotiated by David Mulugheta of Athletes First.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Good lord - why would you do that?

We have him under control for his age 24, 25 and 26 seasons for about $40 million total.

You're saying give him $75 million for those years before he hits FA at 27? Good lord no. That's just charity.

Even if you start it AFTER next season, you have him at $65 million for those 3 years.

No extension I offer him starts before the '27 season. And if you offer him 3 after that he doesn't hit FA until age 29 so you might as well try to get him in for that 4th year. Getting to FA a season earlier at 29 for a DB isn't worth a ton, IMO...

Bc the player is rightfully gonna be pissed off and want his money. These guys are not stupid. They know one play could mean a catastrophic loss of potentially earned money. One Achilles and the contract suddenly changes drastically for a corner.

It’s just bad business that leads to hold outs. He’s eligible to be paid today and is a valuable known quantity that is very important to this team…and per your post, you won’t pay him for another nearly 3 years?

So you’re letting the price get to probably $34 or $35 million and making him wait?

Again these guys are not dumb. He’s a first team all-pro. He knows his value. You think he’s gonna be fine playing upwards of 40+ more games before getting life changing money? I seriously doubt he wants to entail that much risk before making huge money.

Edit: looks like your post in suggesting a deal that is now but added onto the end of his rookie deal account for the 5th yr option. If that’s the case I’m fine with that

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I don’t think anyone prevents separation better than McDuffie.

Now the length can be an issue at the catch point, but he’s the best pure cover guy in the league I think besides Surtain.

Nobody stops other guys from catching the football better than Stingley.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Nobody stops other guys from catching the football better than Stingley.

I’ll accept your stance and still raise you that Trent McDuffie specifically is the perfect DB for Spags’ defense.

The blitzing, the safety protection behind press corners outside, all of it makes it so IMO.

[Gary Cooper]

If we want to copy the Patriots sustained dynasty, its difficult to justify large contracts to anyone besides the QB.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

If we want to copy the Patriots sustained dynasty, its difficult to justify large contracts to anyone besides the QB.

Actually New England did pay several key players big deals.

The difference with them compared to others was they would set hard lines in the sand, and wouldn’t go past those points. They also would trade key players for a pick even while still seemingly at the end of their primes, especially those who had already been on a fairly high salary.

But off the top of my head I know they paid Gronk, Hernandez, Edelman, McCourty, Hightower. They just never got bent over on a deal.

They weren’t afraid to let a guy see what he was truly worth and many times, it didn’t seem enough for them to leave.

[Bump]

At least we're not going to have to pay Skyy Moore a big contract ammiright

[Wisconsin_Chief]

I remember when we signed Carlton Gray to a 5-year, $15 million contract back in the day and everyone said we overpaid.

Who’s laughing now?

Wait, no this isn’t good. Trent? Where are you, Trent?

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

I remember when we signed Carlton Gray to a 5-year, $15 million contract back in the day and everyone said we overpaid.

Who’s laughing now?

Wait, no this isn’t good. Trent? Where are you, Trent?

What a disaster that was.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Actually New England did pay several key players big deals.

The difference with them compared to others was they would set hard lines in the sand, and wouldn’t go past those points. They also would trade key players for a pick even while still seemingly at the end of their primes, especially those who had already been on a fairly high salary.

But off the top of my head I know they paid Gronk, Hernandez, Edelman, McCourty, Hightower. They just never got bent over on a deal.

They weren’t afraid to let a guy see what he was truly worth and many times, it didn’t seem enough for them to leave.

Yeah, I just don't remember those guys making the highest salary per their positions. Nothing extreme. Gronk would have deserved it at least.

[tyecopeland]

Something I've only seen reported by the athletic is that 89 mil in guarantees includes these next two seasons. The new money guarantee is only 63.5. This is also being shown by spotrac.

[tyecopeland]

Because the guarantees are including the 5th year option but the 3 yr/90 mil doesn't a more accurate portrayal is 4 years 107.6 mil.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

Something I've only seen reported by the athletic is that 89 mil in guarantees includes these next two seasons. The new money guarantee is only 63.5. This is also being shown by spotrac.

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

Because the guarantees are including the 5th year option but the 3 yr/90 mil doesn't a more accurate portrayal is 4 years 107.6 mil.

Good finds.

So yeah, the pathway to a McDuffie extension that makes sense for both sides is not as steep as it came off with agent reports this morning.

[tyecopeland]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Good finds.

So yeah, the pathway to a McDuffie extension that makes sense for both sides is not as steep as it came off with agent reports this morning.

Yeah.

Another way to look at it is this:

After his rookie deal finishes this year the Texans will pay him ~81 mil the next 3 seasons with a 4th year non guaranteed option at 27 mil.

[Fishels]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

While I totally agree with that, there’s not much of a choice there anymore now is there?

We’re backed into somewhat of a corner with Trey.

Trent is one of my favorite Chiefs of the past decade, but gosh damn. $30m gets pretty dangerous I feel, especially for a position where you’re just kinda hoping he stays this good through year eight at most.

I say Trade him and keep the team young. That’s not what I WANT because of exactly what you said about Trent. But we’ve been in this situation before where we traded an amazing player away and if paid off in the long run.

We need the OL more than a corner.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Clay was right. McDuffie is getting shipped out but not this year. Next year will begin the third lap in Mahomes career. No Kelce and IDK about Andy.