Chiefs the second-best drafting team over the last five years

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

No, the Eagles are. Veach is a good GM, but Howie is better.

Howie has had the opportunity to draft earlier than KC 3 of the 5 years. He also has an owner who sold 5% of the team to float the capital to push contracts down the road, which Clark doesn’t seem very keen on. If you factor in draft position, it would be difficult to put Howie on top. They basically just had a draft as close to KCs 2022 draft, for the same reason. We traded Reek and got a haul, they traded Wentz and got a haul. Also add in that teams have been reluctant to trade in the draft with KC, and not really with the Eagles yet.

Veach drives me crazy on certain things, but he’s had a harder hand the last 5 years than Roseman.

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Howie has had the opportunity to draft earlier than KC 3 of the 5 years. He also has an owner who sold 5% of the team to float the capital to push contracts down the road, which Clark doesn’t seem very keen on. If you factor in draft position, it would be difficult to put Howie on top. They basically just had a draft as close to KCs 2022 draft, for the same reason. We traded Reek and got a haul, they traded Wentz and got a haul. Also add in that teams have been reluctant to trade in the draft with KC, and not really with the Eagles yet.

Veach drives me crazy on certain things, but he’s had a harder hand the last 5 years than Roseman.

True, but Howie has done exceptionally well in the later rounds.

2020 - Hurts (2nd)

2021 - Landon Dickerson (2nd), Milton Williams (3rd)

2022 - Cam Jurgens (2nd), Nakobe Dean (3rd)

2024 - Cooper Dejean (2nd), Jalyx Hunt (3rd)

And look at the 2023 draft, we went with FAU, while Sam Laporta went a few picks later to Detroit. Laporta would be the perfect replacement for Travis. Or Veach could have gotten a little agressive and traded up in the first round a few picks to get Nolan Smith before the Eagles did.

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

We had an incredible core of players that were HOF stars before Veach took control. And yes, Veach is given a huge credit pushing for Mahomes under Dorsey.

Tyreek Hill

Travis Kelce

Chris Jones

Patrick Mahomes


What Veach has done well in going to 5 SB's has been getting on base and doubles over and over and over.


Maybe Creed is also a HOF drafted but mostly just very good players that fit what we do like

Bolton

Sneed

IPac, etc


With the old star core other than Mahomes aging out we need a few more super stars drafted over the next 3-4 years if we want to maintain dominance.

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

True, but Howie has done exceptionally well in the later rounds.

2020 - Hurts (2nd)

2021 - Landon Dickerson (2nd), Milton Williams (3rd)

2022 - Cam Jurgens (2nd), Nakobe Dean (3rd)

2024 - Cooper Dejean (2nd), Jalyx Hunt (3rd)

And look at the 2023 draft, we went with FAU, while Sam Laporta went a few picks later to Detroit. Laporta would be the perfect replacement for Travis. Or Veach could have gotten a little agressive and traded up in the first round a few picks to get Nolan Smith before the Eagles did.

Hope you both get sodomized by a horse

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Howie has had the opportunity to draft earlier than KC 3 of the 5 years. He also has an owner who sold 5% of the team to float the capital to push contracts down the road, which Clark doesn’t seem very keen on. If you factor in draft position, it would be difficult to put Howie on top. They basically just had a draft as close to KCs 2022 draft, for the same reason. We traded Reek and got a haul, they traded Wentz and got a haul. Also add in that teams have been reluctant to trade in the draft with KC, and not really with the Eagles yet.

Veach drives me crazy on certain things, but he’s had a harder hand the last 5 years than Roseman.

Howie has done better in FA's. Barkley, Baun, Becton were all great signings at an extreme bargain. But they have have also drafted guys that I was surprised fell that far. Like jalen Carter, Dejean.