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Old 05-05-2025, 10:31 AM   #1
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I think it's like most stats: Useful in context, but difficult to keep in context.

It's also kind of why Hunter Renfrow has been out of the league. Shifty little slot who can do some crazy stuff, but struggles being "on time" in the offense. If he's not freelancing, he's not productive, type of deal.
To really give it much value is to overlook a point we've made in various different contexts -- the difference between a great player and someone who's just not in the league is ridiculously small.

So when you see a stat -- ANY stat -- where there's somebody that's out there doing things 50% better than anyone else in the league....you should REALLY start to question that stat.

Because the odds of Skyy Moore unlocking the rosetta stone for WR separation are...zero. Or Richie James, if we want to cite someone who's unlikely to illicit such strong opinions.

When you have these guys out there pulling up 2-3 yards of separation on average when the rest of the league is struggling to find a yard...well that tells you the stat is probably silly.

Richie James didn't come up with some magic way of running routes that Justin Jefferson just can't do or doesn't understand.

The margins are so small that if your stat ISN'T showing small margins, the problem is probably with the stat.
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Old 05-05-2025, 11:06 AM   #2
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To really give it much value is to overlook a point we've made in various different contexts -- the difference between a great player and someone who's just not in the league is ridiculously small.

So when you see a stat -- ANY stat -- where there's somebody that's out there doing things 50% better than anyone else in the league....you should REALLY start to question that stat.

Because the odds of Skyy Moore unlocking the rosetta stone for WR separation are...zero. Or Richie James, if we want to cite someone who's unlikely to illicit such strong opinions.

When you have these guys out there pulling up 2-3 yards of separation on average when the rest of the league is struggling to find a yard...well that tells you the stat is probably silly.

Richie James didn't come up with some magic way of running routes that Justin Jefferson just can't do or doesn't understand.

The margins are so small that if your stat ISN'T showing small margins, the problem is probably with the stat.
A 5'9" receiver who can't separate is utterly uslesless. Which is why Skyy is complete ass.

That only works if you are Mike Evans and you're huge and you just catch everything cuz you're huge.
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Old 05-05-2025, 11:14 AM   #3
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A 5'9" receiver who can't separate is utterly uslesless. Which is why Skyy is complete ass.

That only works if you are Mike Evans and you're huge and you just catch everything cuz you're huge.
That is the thing though. He DOES separate at least at the initial point burst. I feel like he MUST not be very physical and get bumped off his route too easily. Combine that with his awful awful football IQ and just not understanding where he needs to receive the ball.
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