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htismaqe · 09-14-2004, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Well, I dunno ... we'll see how it goes. I was and still am extremely happy with how the game went and how Q performed.

But, I'm still cautiously optimistic about the rest of the season. Jake still makes me nervous on 4 out of every 10 offensive drives... I fear the effectiveness of the TE/receiver depth and the Oline.

So, I'm not resetting my season expectations just yet... it's way too early. I want to see what they do on the road against a tough run defense next week in Jacksonville.

If Q is limited, I want to see how the passing game reacts. I think the defense will smother the Jags, so it could be low scoring, but I have no true concerns about Denver losing that one ... should be 2-0 which would be nice.

You're not at all concerned about a defense that is LIGHT YEARS better than the Chiefs? You're not at all concerned about Fred Taylor after what Holmes did?

Your arrogance is unbecoming.

Mile High Mania · 09-14-2004, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

You're not at all concerned about a defense that is LIGHT YEARS better than the Chiefs? You're not at all concerned about Fred Taylor after what Holmes did?

Your arrogance is unbecoming.

C'mon, read it again. I stated concerns about the Jags' run defense and what happens if they contain Q.

I have "no concerns" about losing b/c Taylor, while good, is not in the same category as Priest. Fred Taylor on his best day this season will be hard pressed to top what Priest did on Sunday.

I look at the Jags' offense and what I think the Broncos' defense will do and that is why I have no concerns. Could they lose? Sure, anything happens.... I have respect and fear their defense.

Am I 100% comfortable with Denver's offense right now? No, hardly... they have issues and will have problems on Sunday. The defense will save them.

**Baby Lee** · 09-14-2004, 01:16 PM

In this list

Overrated
Patriots
Colts
Rams

Underrated
Cardinals
Lions
Chargers
Eagles

Rest is fairly accurate.

whoman69 · 09-14-2004, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

In this list

Overrated
Patriots
Colts
Rams

Underrated
Cardinals
Lions
Chargers
Eagles

Rest is fairly accurate.

Patriots overrated? They beat the team that went to the championship last year and btw, they're the defending champs.
Can't really say the Cards are that underrated. They will have trouble against every team they play this year. Perhaps the only team they will be favored against is SF.
Rams are a team waiting to explode, or should I say implode. Marshall Faulk will get dinged and they will not use him the rest of the year. They then have to rely on the questionable leadership of Bulger.
Colts actually played better than I thought they would. I expected them to be much worse this year because of the defensive losses.

**Baby Lee** · 09-15-2004, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

Patriots overrated? They beat the team that went to the championship last year and btw, they're the defending champs.
Can't really say the Cards are that underrated. They will have trouble against every team they play this year. Perhaps the only team they will be favored against is SF.
Rams are a team waiting to explode, or should I say implode. Marshall Faulk will get dinged and they will not use him the rest of the year. They then have to rely on the questionable leadership of Bulger.
Colts actually played better than I thought they would. I expected them to be much worse this year because of the defensive losses.

I already clarified that they are overrated at #1. Philly deserves that spot, IMO. They are still an elite team.

htismaqe · 09-14-2004, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

C'mon, read it again. I stated concerns about the Jags' run defense and what happens if they contain Q.

I have "no concerns" about losing b/c Taylor, while good, is not in the same category as Priest. Fred Taylor on his best day this season will be hard pressed to top what Priest did on Sunday.

I look at the Jags' offense and what I think the Broncos' defense will do and that is why I have no concerns. Could they lose? Sure, anything happens.... I have respect and fear their defense.

Am I 100% comfortable with Denver's offense right now? No, hardly... they have issues and will have problems on Sunday. The defense will save them.

I'm sorry, Brad, but I sincerely hope you lose so that all of you guys will go away for a while.

I can't stand the smug attitude.

Mile High Mania · 09-14-2004, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm sorry, Brad, but I sincerely hope you lose so that all of you guys will go away for a while.

I can't stand the smug attitude.

Smug? Do you really think the Jags can do anything close to what KC did against Denver?

htismaqe · 09-14-2004, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Smug? Do you really think the Jags can do anything close to what KC did against Denver?

What did KC do exactly against the Broncos, besides take advantage of absolute gifts from the football gods? We didn't complete passes, we didn't protect the QB, we couldn't stop Jake Plummer's COUCH, let alone the entire offense.

The Jags should have success running the ball.

And the Jags won't EVEN COME CLOSE to giving up 200 yards on the ground.

Furthermore, they have Mike Peterson on their defense. Nobody compares, not even KR/PR/WR/RB/S/CB Champ Bailey.

Mile High Mania · 09-14-2004, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

What did KC do exactly against the Broncos, besides take advantage of absolute gifts from the football gods? We didn't complete passes, we didn't protect the QB, we couldn't stop Jake Plummer's COUCH, let alone the entire offense.

The Jags should have success running the ball.

And the Jags won't EVEN COME CLOSE to giving up 200 yards on the ground.

Furthermore, they have Mike Peterson on their defense. Nobody compares, not even KR/PR/WR/RB/S/CB Champ Bailey.

Ok, did Denver's defense have anything to do with KC's offensive woes?
Is the KC offense vastly superior to that of the Jags?
Is Taylor on the level of Priest Holmes?

The answers are yes, yes and no.

I've stated their run defense is levels better - I've questioned Denver's offensive success if Q is contained. Did you miss those statements?

I think Denver's defense will hold the Jags from scoring more than 10-13 points. I do believe that Denver can score 13 or more points on Sunday. That's all.

Valiant -
Plummer had success in games against teams other than KC in 2003. They ran misdirection and bootlegs then as well.

Fellas - I'm not predicting the Broncos will romp the Jags 49 - 10. I'm not prediciting this is a SuperBowl bound team. I've admitted that I still question their ability and I realize (even typed it) that they had nice success and a win against a Chiefs' defense that is just as shameful as it was a year ago.

If this is smug, then I'm smug... I think I'm fairly within reason to have confidence and to expect a win against the Jags. I'll be back later on ... carry on.

htismaqe · 09-14-2004, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Ok, did Denver's defense have anything to do with KC's offensive woes?
Is the KC offense vastly superior to that of the Jags?
Is Taylor on the level of Priest Holmes?

The answers are yes, yes and no.

I've stated their run defense is levels better - I've questioned Denver's offensive success if Q is contained. Did you miss those statements?

I think Denver's defense will hold the Jags from scoring more than 10-13 points. I do believe that Denver can score 13 or more points on Sunday. That's all.

Valiant -
Plummer had success in games against teams other than KC in 2003. They ran misdirection and bootlegs then as well.

Fellas - I'm not predicting the Broncos will romp the Jags 49 - 10. I'm not prediciting this is a SuperBowl bound team. I've admitted that I still question their ability and I realize (even typed it) that they had nice success and a win against a Chiefs' defense that is just as shameful as it was a year ago.

If this is smug, then I'm smug... I think I'm fairly within reason to have confidence and to expect a win against the Jags. I'll be back later on ... carry on.

Were you at home vs. the Chiefs? Did crowd noise play a factor in the KC offensive woes? Are the KC receivers better than Jacksonville's?

The answers are yes, yes, and no.

If Leftwich doesn't throw the ball directly to the Broncos defense, ala Jake Plummer, the Jags win this game.

Valiant · 09-14-2004, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Smug? Do you really think the Jags can do anything close to what KC did against Denver?

And your offense will be lucky to score half of what you did agianst the Jagoffs... You our not playing our defense week in, week out...

For Denver to win in agianst jacksonville you need to:

win the turnover battle...

put plummer on a short leash..

and grind out the clock with the running game..

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