KC Star: Hunt answers cynics on stadium funding (Murphy)

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Mark M

Damn ... I thought Lamar was a cheap bastard.

So who is right -- BigRedChief and Wahzarus .... or the facts?

MM
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oh fuck you, rahtard.


the fact that we had cap room, had profit margin and still said we didn't have the money to add free agents this year is proof enough for me.



if Lamar Hunt we so concerned about ticket prices then why did he let them get that high in the first place?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by lazarus

oh fuck you, rahtard.


the fact that we had cap room, had profit margin and still said we didn't have the money to add free agents this year is proof enough for me.



if Lamar Hunt we so concerned about ticket prices then why did he let them get that high in the first place?

FACT: the team made a profit
FACT: the team said we didn't have any money to sign free agents
FACT: the team didn't sign any high-profile free agents
FICTION: the team has cap room

Look, I'm just as upset that you that the team did nothing in the offseason, and I would still like to see McCardell and McKenzie in a Chiefs' uniform.

But I'm to going to let this die. You THINK (by way of compelling circumstantial evidence, I'll admit) that we have cap room. You do not KNOW they have cap room.

[Brando]

It's cheaper than buying a beer.

That it is! Now it's just a matter of convincing the cheerleaders to drink directly from the bottle.

[beavis]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You do not KNOW they have cap room.

Very true. But when I look at teams like the Redskins who go out and sign whoever they damn well please, (and I am in no way saying we should be taking personel advice from Snyder) it really makes me wonder why we can't sign the big name free agents.

[Logical]

Winning would do more to help pass this sales tax than any explanation. Get some talent and the rest would probably take care of itself. The way the Royals and Chiefs approach winning they probably do not deserve the investment or the public's trust.

[stanleychief]

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

Winning would do more to help pass this sales tax than any explanation. Get some talent and the rest would probably take care of itself. The way the Royals and Chiefs approach winning they probably do not deserve the investment or the public's trust.

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner.

Put a winning team on the field and nobody whines about $6 beers, $25 parking, $60 nosebleed seats. Play like we did on Sunday and nobody will pay for any of it. If Lamar hopes to get this tax passed by November, he better shake things up and get this team turned around proto. I think right now a lot of people feel 'duped' into believing the Chiefs would do something this year, and that doesn't settle well with them to see them do nothing in the offseason.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

Winning would do more to help pass this sales tax than any explanation. Get some talent and the rest would probably take care of itself. The way the Royals and Chiefs approach winning they probably do not deserve the investment or the public's trust.

I WHOLE-HEARTEDLY agree.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by beavis

Very true. But when I look at teams like the Redskins who go out and sign whoever they damn well please, (and I am in no way saying we should be taking personel advice from Snyder) it really makes me wonder why we can't sign the big name free agents.

You do realize the differences between Arrowhead and FedEx, right? Daniel Snyder can pay for players with REVENUE, whereas Lamar has to take money out of his pocket.

The Chiefs need to sign somebody like McCardell to give the fans some confidence. Pass bi-state2, build some skyboxes, and start using that money to build a real team.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You do realize the differences between Arrowhead and FedEx, right? Daniel Snyder can pay for players with REVENUE, whereas Lamar has to take money out of his pocket.

I disagree here. Lamar by his own admission in the article says he made 24 mil profit. Why do you think money is coming out of his pocket? Is it going to cut into his profit yes but he still won't be paying any money out of pocket.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I disagree here. Lamar by his own admission in the article says he made 24 mil profit. Why do you think money is coming out of his pocket? Is it going to cut into his profit yes but he still won't be paying any money out of pocket.

I believe Daniel Snyder made a clean $115M in profit. There's no comparison.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I disagree here. Lamar by his own admission in the article says he made 24 mil profit. Why do you think money is coming out of his pocket? Is it going to cut into his profit yes but he still won't be paying any money out of pocket.

You have no idea what you're talking about. The difference between the Redskins and Chiefs is almost as bad as between the Yankees and Royals....

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by tk13

You have no idea what you're talking about. The difference between the Redskins and Chiefs is almost as bad as between the Yankees and Royals....

HUH? Teh Yankees spend 181 million. The Royals spend 45 million. The Chiefs and Redskins get to spend the same exact amount every year. No more. They can spend less but not more. It's called a salary cap. Baseball should try it.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You do realize the differences between Arrowhead and FedEx, right? Daniel Snyder can pay for players with REVENUE, whereas Lamar has to take money out of his pocket.

The Chiefs need to sign somebody like McCardell to give the fans some confidence. Pass bi-state2, build some skyboxes, and start using that money to build a real team.

I understand your point, but those that actually have to foot the bill should give this some consideration. I'm all for making Arrowhead a nicer facility, but that is dependent on the Chiefs making some moves to put this team over the top. It's give and take and right now I'm upset with the Chiefs FO for doing more of the taking and not enough giving.

[Mark M]

Originally Posted by Waaaahhhhhhhzarus

oh fuck you, rahtard.


the fact that we had cap room, had profit margin and still said we didn't have the money to add free agents this year is proof enough for me.



if Lamar Hunt we so concerned about ticket prices then why did he let them get that high in the first place?

**** yourself, crybaby. And get over yourself as well.

Did you ever stop to think that there is a reason they didn't make those moves?

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Lamar has shelled out over $50 million in bonuses the past few years (Priest, Trent, Tony, Barber, Holliday, Hall, Maz, Hicks, McCleon and others have been signed or re-signed).

Maybe it has to do with them not being "profile" guys, as DV puts it.

Maybe it's because the Chiefs have been burned by bad FA moves in the past and didn't see the need to add any more high-priced FAs.

The fact is, no one knows why. But for you and others to call Lamar "cheap" is ludicrous. The reason ticket prices went up is because the Chiefs need more revenue. It's just that simple. There simply aren't enough ways at the stadium to make money (i.e. more luxury boxes, concessions, etc.), so they have to find ways to generate more money, and the best way is through ticket sales. If you don't like the price of tickets, then don't buy them.

No matter what you or others say, running an NFL team is BUSINESS. The point of ANY BUSINESS is to make money. Operating in the red is just plain stupid. Sure, it'd be nice to spend hundreds of millions on signing bonues ... after all, that's worked so well for Dan Snyder, hasn't it?

What's even funnier is that, if KC did sign these players and they didn't work out, everyone would be saying how Carl shouldn't have signed them, that they are busts and how much of a waste of cap room the players are.

It's a lose/lose proposition with you and others, and your hatred of all things Carl and Co. prevent some of you from using rational, logical thought. Either that, or you really might wanna mix in some decaf.

MM
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