National Media starts the bashing. It's Trent's fault now.

**BigRedChief** · 09-21-2004, 11:15 AM

From cbssportline:

Green hit eight of his first nine, then was 9 of 25 the rest of the way. For the second straight week he completed only half of his passes. For the second straight week he didn't have 200 yards in completions. For the second straight week he had no touchdowns.
You can look it up: In two weeks he's 23 of 66 for 361 yards, no TDs and two interceptions, and you want to know what's wrong with the defense?

The link:
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7698339

Hammock Parties · 09-21-2004, 11:18 AM

33 of 66 actually, but still pretty bad.

7 drops in two games haven't helped, but Trent has not played well. You can throw in that 23-yard sack as a bonehead play too.

Taco John · 09-21-2004, 11:19 AM

It was only a matter of time before the real Green started showing his true face.

Unfortunately, your offensive line is no longer looking like the best in football. It appears that Roaf is slow off the blocks, and Welbourn is a virnstile with elbows...

HolmeZz · 09-21-2004, 11:20 AM

The pick by Champ ended up acting like a punt, since the Donks got flagged 15 yards after the play. And the second INT was late in the Panthers game. He was trying to force the ball.

Our offense will be fine, IMO. The numbers produced early by Trent are just the side effect of having to play from behind way too much early on. Why? Because our defense has trouble holding the opposing offense scoreless for one friggin' possession.

If our defense was even half decent, Trent's numbers would be considerably better.

**BigRedChief** · 09-21-2004, 11:21 AM

Here's ESPN saying we are getting our last rites?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1885617

Mr. Laz · 09-21-2004, 11:24 AM

oh christ... let the green crying start again

the WHOLE team didn't play well against carolina.

dam man ... let it go

Hammock Parties · 09-21-2004, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

It was only a matter of time before the real Green started showing his true face.

Unfortunately, your offensive line is no longer looking like the best in football. It appears that Roaf is slow off the blocks, and Welbourn is a virnstile with elbows...

Now you're just being mean. Green has started each of the last two seasons off slowly in the first month. He has a breakout game and then hits his stride for the rest of the season.

I don't think Roaf has lost anything, either. He had a fine game against Denver and got beat on a few plays against the Panthers. He WAS going up against Mike Rucker for crying out loud.

At least we know Trent Green is never going to throw any left-handed interceptions.

donkhater · 09-21-2004, 11:33 AM

Other than that sack in Denver, I don't think Trent's played badly. He could play better for sure, but he is what he is. With a good running game, O-Line and practice with his receivers, he'll play as well as anyone.

Unfourtunately, if Saunders doesn't call for Priest to get the ball, Welborn or Roaf struggle a bit in pass protection and no receiver other than Hall and an undrafted rookie is healthy for a whole month he will play poorly. I do think that is a surprise to anyone here.

Gaz · 09-21-2004, 11:37 AM

There are many factors contributing to our lack of Offense so far:
• [2] good Defenses [Denver & Carolina]. Houston does not have a Denver/Carolina-caliber Defense. A ray of hope for our struggling Offense.

• Decimated WR corps. We must find a way to get Hall and young Mr. Smith involved. Young and raw he may be, but Smith still has the speed we lose with Kennison out of the game.

• Disappointing efforts from Welbourn [game #1] & Roaf [game #2] [See item #1]. Welbourn was better in game #2. hopefully Roaf will be better in game #3.

• Questionable play-calling. Saunders was prone to being overly-tricky on occasion last season. After the first drive against Carolina, the play-calling disappointed me.

Except for the bonehead 23-yard sack he took against Denver, I cannot fault Green’s play all that much.

xoxo~
Gaz
Disressed to see so many independent variables in the equation.

**BigRedChief** · 09-21-2004, 11:39 AM

Trent is still DA MAN!

Chief Fanatic · 09-21-2004, 11:42 AM

Hey Taco, you saw the Real Green last year with a healthy group of receivers, a solid line, and he was looking very comfortable back there, This year he has no one to throw too, so he forces almost all his throws. Take Priest and Tony G and you have got our receivers shut down. NO one else can get seperation, or wants to catch the ball in the rough spots(Morton with alligator arms down the middle again.)

Sure-Oz · 09-21-2004, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

It was only a matter of time before the real Green started showing his true face.

Unfortunately, your offensive line is no longer looking like the best in football. It appears that Roaf is slow off the blocks, and Welbourn is a virnstile with elbows...

Yeah Jake plummer is such a stud as well, it would help if the WR's don't drop half the shit and get open. I think green will turn it around.

ROYC75 · 09-21-2004, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz

The pick by Champ ended up acting like a punt, since the Donks got flagged 15 yards after the play. And the second INT was late in the Panthers game. He was trying to force the ball.

Our offense will be fine, IMO. The numbers produced early by Trent are just the side effect of having to play from behind way too much early on. Why? Because our defense has trouble holding the opposing offense scoreless for one friggin' possession.

If our defense was even half decent, Trent's numbers would be considerably better.

The flipside of that coins says that if our offense was up to par our defense would be much better not having to be on the field over half of the game.

2 way street for this team so far .

Hammock Parties · 09-21-2004, 11:48 AM

It's funny how things change. Back in the Marty days we'd have all been thrilled if our passing game produced 361 yards in the first two games of the season.

jspchief · 09-21-2004, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

It was only a matter of time before the real Green started showing his true face.

Unfortunately, your offensive line is no longer looking like the best in football. It appears that Roaf is slow off the blocks, and Welbourn is a virnstile with elbows...

Oh please. Am I hearing a donkey fan talk about a QB showing their true self? Will the real Jake Plummer please stand up?

09-21-2004, 11:15 AM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-761038 VARSITY	National Media starts the bashing. It's Trent's fault now. From cbssportline: Green hit eight of his first nine, then was 9 of 25 the rest of the way. For the second straight week he completed only half of his passes. For the second straight week he didn't have 200 yards in completions. For the second straight week he had no touchdowns. You can look it up: In two weeks he's 23 of 66 for 361 yards, no TDs and two interceptions, and you want to know what's wrong with the defense? The link: http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7698339
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09-21-2004, 11:18 AM	#2
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $830478	33 of 66 actually, but still pretty bad. 7 drops in two games haven't helped, but Trent has not played well. You can throw in that 23-yard sack as a bonehead play too. __________________ Chiefs game films
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09-21-2004, 11:19 AM	#3
Taco John Sapere Aude Join Date: Jun 2001 Casino cash: $457937	It was only a matter of time before the real Green started showing his true face. Unfortunately, your offensive line is no longer looking like the best in football. It appears that Roaf is slow off the blocks, and Welbourn is a virnstile with elbows... __________________ Ehyeh asher ehyeh. Donger's Razor: "The most establishment-friendly explanation that gives leftist and neocon politicians the most amount of cover is the only possible explanation, even when gaping holes and leaps of logic are required to get there."
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09-21-2004, 11:20 AM	#4
HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	The pick by Champ ended up acting like a punt, since the Donks got flagged 15 yards after the play. And the second INT was late in the Panthers game. He was trying to force the ball. Our offense will be fine, IMO. The numbers produced early by Trent are just the side effect of having to play from behind way too much early on. Why? Because our defense has trouble holding the opposing offense scoreless for one friggin' possession. If our defense was even half decent, Trent's numbers would be considerably better.
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09-21-2004, 11:21 AM	#5
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-761038 VARSITY	Here's ESPN saying we are getting our last rites? http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1885617 __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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09-21-2004, 11:24 AM	#6
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	oh christ... let the green crying start again the WHOLE team didn't play well against carolina. dam man ... let it go __________________
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09-21-2004, 11:33 AM	#8
donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	Other than that sack in Denver, I don't think Trent's played badly. He could play better for sure, but he is what he is. With a good running game, O-Line and practice with his receivers, he'll play as well as anyone. Unfourtunately, if Saunders doesn't call for Priest to get the ball, Welborn or Roaf struggle a bit in pass protection and no receiver other than Hall and an undrafted rookie is healthy for a whole month he will play poorly. I do think that is a surprise to anyone here. __________________ The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants
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09-21-2004, 11:37 AM	#9
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	The magical disappearing Offense... There are many factors contributing to our lack of Offense so far: • [2] good Defenses [Denver & Carolina]. Houston does not have a Denver/Carolina-caliber Defense. A ray of hope for our struggling Offense. • Decimated WR corps. We must find a way to get Hall and young Mr. Smith involved. Young and raw he may be, but Smith still has the speed we lose with Kennison out of the game. • Disappointing efforts from Welbourn [game #1] & Roaf [game #2] [See item #1]. Welbourn was better in game #2. hopefully Roaf will be better in game #3. • Questionable play-calling. Saunders was prone to being overly-tricky on occasion last season. After the first drive against Carolina, the play-calling disappointed me. Except for the bonehead 23-yard sack he took against Denver, I cannot fault Green’s play all that much. xoxo~ Gaz Disressed to see so many independent variables in the equation.
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09-21-2004, 11:39 AM	#10
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-761038 VARSITY	Trent is still DA MAN! __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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09-21-2004, 11:42 AM	#11
Chief Fanatic Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC/Liberty Casino cash: $10004900	Hey Taco, you saw the Real Green last year with a healthy group of receivers, a solid line, and he was looking very comfortable back there, This year he has no one to throw too, so he forces almost all his throws. Take Priest and Tony G and you have got our receivers shut down. NO one else can get seperation, or wants to catch the ball in the rough spots(Morton with alligator arms down the middle again.)
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09-21-2004, 11:48 AM	#14
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $830478	It's funny how things change. Back in the Marty days we'd have all been thrilled if our passing game produced 361 yards in the first two games of the season. __________________ Chiefs game films
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