Mort says it's NOT the scheme....

CanadaKC · 09-22-2004, 10:03 AM

...it's the talent of the players...and poor tackling that is the problem on the Chiefs D. Check out today's Mort chat on ESPN for link. There you have it. I trust Mort more than a lot of football analysts...although most of us knew that already. Let's face it...time for Carl to draft a stud d player...not a tweener, project, or reach anymore.

CanadaKC · 09-22-2004, 10:06 AM

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Well, we can't keep blaming it on the scheme and you certainly can't point the finger at Greg Robinson anymore. You have to point the finger at the players. Either they fall short in talent or they are underachievers. Yes, tackling is a problem

Sure-Oz · 09-22-2004, 10:15 AM

Tackling is the biggest problem, there were many times they had Foster stopped at the line and then he broke tackles to gain 8 yards, wrap up you morons!

Mr. Laz · 09-22-2004, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC

Mort says it's NOT the scheme.......it's the talent of the players...

im shocked... you mean we should of added talent this offseason to the defense?!?

ChiefsCountry · 09-22-2004, 10:19 AM

Scheme is working great, we got in the backfield all day against Carolina, just didn't wrap up and make the tackle. We do that and our defense would improve my leaps and bounds.

**BigRedChief** · 09-22-2004, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC

... Let's face it...time for Carl to draft a stud d player...not a tweener, project, or reach anymore.

What was the 6th pick in the draft (Sims) suppose to be?

Were we not sold the bill of goods on Barber. He was a top flight LB in the NFL?

That Mcleon was good enough. We didn't need to draft a corner. We needed a project DT worse.

Brock · 09-22-2004, 10:23 AM

It's neither scheme nor talent. It's a lack of execution.

Chiefnj · 09-22-2004, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock Landers

It's neither scheme nor talent. It's a lack of execution.

Isn't lack of execution a reflection of the talent??

**ChiTown** · 09-22-2004, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

Isn't lack of execution a reflection of the talent??

and coaching

milkman · 09-22-2004, 10:40 AM

How many actually thought that the talent level was there to be a top tier D?

I didn't.

My problem with Spinner's scheme was that his passive approach allowed teams to get back into games after the Chiefs O scored some points.

I want to see Gun's scheme in action when the Chiefs get some points and have a lead.

Gun will attack and force some mistakes.

Clearly the talent level has to be improved, but I thought Gun's attacking style, combined with a high octane O would be able to mask some of the talent deficiencies on D.

So far we haven't had an opportunity to see that.

Braincase · 09-22-2004, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Scheme is working great, we got in the backfield all day against Carolina, just didn't wrap up and make the tackle. We do that and our defense would improve my leaps and bounds.

I would agree with this. I see the Chiefs defensive players in the right position to make the play now more than ever. It's a matter of finishing the job.

Sure-Oz · 09-22-2004, 10:44 AM

The defense needs to work together, seems like everyone is lost out there!

Brock · 09-22-2004, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

Isn't lack of execution a reflection of the talent??

Not IMO.

journeyscarab · 09-22-2004, 10:46 AM

Get Gun out of the booth and down with the troops. He looks like a caged lion whenever they show him on TV. He's be more effective on the sidelines with the D.

Mr. Laz · 09-22-2004, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I want to see Gun's scheme in action when the Chiefs get some points and have a lead.

imo we haven't seen gun's attacking defense in action is because he found out, just like Greg Rob/inson found out, that our secondary isn't good enough to cover behind a blitz.

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CanadaKC Lord of the SB Rings Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Casino cash: $5968668	Mort says it's NOT the scheme.... ...it's the talent of the players...and poor tackling that is the problem on the Chiefs D. Check out today's Mort chat on ESPN for link. There you have it. I trust Mort more than a lot of football analysts...although most of us knew that already. Let's face it...time for Carl to draft a stud d player...not a tweener, project, or reach anymore.
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ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1581248	Scheme is working great, we got in the backfield all day against Carolina, just didn't wrap up and make the tackle. We do that and our defense would improve my leaps and bounds.
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Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	It's neither scheme nor talent. It's a lack of execution.
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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	How many actually thought that the talent level was there to be a top tier D? I didn't. My problem with Spinner's scheme was that his passive approach allowed teams to get back into games after the Chiefs O scored some points. I want to see Gun's scheme in action when the Chiefs get some points and have a lead. Gun will attack and force some mistakes. Clearly the talent level has to be improved, but I thought Gun's attacking style, combined with a high octane O would be able to mask some of the talent deficiencies on D. So far we haven't had an opportunity to see that. __________________
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journeyscarab SHOCKERS BABY! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Overland Park, KS Casino cash: $1773555	Get Gun out of the booth and down with the troops. He looks like a caged lion whenever they show him on TV. He's be more effective on the sidelines with the D.
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