The latest weak link in the Chiefs chain... - Page 5

Gaz · 10-18-2004, 07:12 AM

So much for “the best Offensive line in the NFL.”

The Jaguars got penetration all day long. The came up the middle and they came around the edges. The suckage on the OL was complete, from LT clear over to RT. Green was running for his life the entire game and there were no holes for Holmes. It was so bad that the staff threw Bober in there for a while.

It is easy to look at Tynes bad kicks and the complete and total owning of McCleon and howl in aguish. But if you want to see where the game was lost, look no further than the trenches. Where our strength used to reside.

xoxo~
Gaz
Has a NEW thing to worry about.

jspchief · 10-19-2004, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey23545

Complete drivel....The offense scored SIXTEEN (. x. )(. x. )(. x. )(. x. )ing points!.....And they didn't even need to score 17, they just had to make a frigging first down to win the game!

Offense was to blame first, last, and all game this week....

You've been smoking too much of the dope that DV has been selling. Thinking that the only way we can win games is if the O scores 30 points is stupid. The offense took the lead with very little time left on the clock. They set the D up for almost as good of a scenario as they could ask for. Maybe the O failed to get the first down, but the D failed to hold a sh*tty offensive team. The D failed last, not the O.

We're so accustomed to expecting our O to bail our D's ass out, that we now give a passing grade to a sh*tty defensive performance. It's pathetic.

Gaz · 10-20-2004, 05:57 AM

It depends on your expectations.

We all expected the Offense to pick up pretty much where it left off. That is a reasonable expectation, IMO. Sure, the Enemy DCs had a chance to hone their Ds against the R&G attack and we swapped Tait for Welbourn. But the O is basically the same as the one that tore up the NFL for the last couple of seasons.

Turns out we were wrong. Something is broken in the Offense.

I expected Gunther to bring a new tude to the Defense, but I also expected that it would take a while for the Defense to shine in the new scheme. Gunther stated that his first priority is the run. Well, the run D has improved considerably in the first quarter of the season. Now he has to turn his attention to the passing D, particularly on 3rd down. We are progressing pretty much as I expected.

Turns out we were right. The run D is pretty good, the pass D still stinks.

Apparently, some of us expected Gunther to immediately turn a crappy Defense into a good Defense with the same players in a quarter of a season. Those folks are bound to be disappointed in the Defense, since it is not living up to their unrealistic expectations. Those folks have confused fantasy land [where the Chiefs have a good Defense] with the cold, hard world [where the Chiefs Defense is installing a new scheme]. The resulting cognitive dissonance is understandable. Once they come to terms with the state of the Chiefs D and realize we do not have an average Defense yet, perhaps the misdirected rage will abate.

The real problem is that the Offense is not living up to our realistic expectations.

That, and the fact that Special Teams inexplicably sucks.

xoxo~
Gaz
Not at all surprised.

htismaqe · 10-20-2004, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaz

It depends on your expectations.

We all expected the Offense to pick up pretty much where it left off. That is a reasonable expectation, IMO. Sure, the Enemy DCs had a chance to hone their Ds against the R&G attack and we swapped Tait for Welbourn. But the O is basically the same as the one that tore up the NFL for the last couple of seasons.

Turns out we were wrong. Something is broken in the Offense.

I expected Gunther to bring a new tude to the Defense, but I also expected that it would take a while for the Defense to shine in the new scheme. Gunther stated that his first priority is the run. Well, the run D has improved considerably in the first quarter of the season. Now he has to turn his attention to the passing D, particularly on 3rd down. We are progressing pretty much as I expected.

Turns out we were right. The run D is pretty good, the pass D still stinks.

Apparently, some of us expected Gunther to immediately turn a crappy Defense into a good Defense with the same players in a quarter of a season. Those folks are bound to be disappointed in the Defense, since it is not living up to their unrealistic expectations. Those folks have confused fantasy land [where the Chiefs have a good Defense] with the cold, hard world [where the Chiefs Defense is installing a new scheme]. The resulting cognitive dissonance is understandable. Once they come to terms with the state of the Chiefs D and realize we do not have an average Defense yet, perhaps the misdirected rage will abate.

The real problem is that the Offense is not living up to our realistic expectations.

That, and the fact that Special Teams inexplicably sucks.

xoxo~
Gaz
Not at all surprised.

I pretty much agree.

We're getting what I expected out of the defense. We're not getting what I expected out of the offense.

Gaz · 10-20-2004, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

...We're getting what I expected out of the defense. We're not getting what I expected out of the offense.

Well, sure. You could say the same thing in 10% of the space…

…but where’s the fun in that?

xoxo~
Gaz
Unpaid by the word.

htismaqe · 10-20-2004, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaz

Well, sure. You could say the same thing in 10% of the space…

…but where’s the fun in that?

xoxo~
Gaz
Unpaid by the word.

wolfpack0735 · 10-20-2004, 08:08 AM

the weakest link is........ QUEEN CARL and to some degree lamar hunt for letting this go on for years.

10-18-2004, 07:12 AM
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	The latest weak link in the Chiefs chain... So much for “the best Offensive line in the NFL.” The Jaguars got penetration all day long. The came up the middle and they came around the edges. The suckage on the OL was complete, from LT clear over to RT. Green was running for his life the entire game and there were no holes for Holmes. It was so bad that the staff threw Bober in there for a while. It is easy to look at Tynes bad kicks and the complete and total owning of McCleon and howl in aguish. But if you want to see where the game was lost, look no further than the trenches. Where our strength used to reside. xoxo~ Gaz Has a NEW thing to worry about.
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10-20-2004, 05:57 AM	#62
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	Fantasy land Vs the real world... It depends on your expectations. We all expected the Offense to pick up pretty much where it left off. That is a reasonable expectation, IMO. Sure, the Enemy DCs had a chance to hone their Ds against the R&G attack and we swapped Tait for Welbourn. But the O is basically the same as the one that tore up the NFL for the last couple of seasons. Turns out we were wrong. Something is broken in the Offense. I expected Gunther to bring a new tude to the Defense, but I also expected that it would take a while for the Defense to shine in the new scheme. Gunther stated that his first priority is the run. Well, the run D has improved considerably in the first quarter of the season. Now he has to turn his attention to the passing D, particularly on 3rd down. We are progressing pretty much as I expected. Turns out we were right. The run D is pretty good, the pass D still stinks. Apparently, some of us expected Gunther to immediately turn a crappy Defense into a good Defense with the same players in a quarter of a season. Those folks are bound to be disappointed in the Defense, since it is not living up to their unrealistic expectations. Those folks have confused fantasy land [where the Chiefs have a good Defense] with the cold, hard world [where the Chiefs Defense is installing a new scheme]. The resulting cognitive dissonance is understandable. Once they come to terms with the state of the Chiefs D and realize we do not have an average Defense yet, perhaps the misdirected rage will abate. The real problem is that the Offense is not living up to our realistic expectations. That, and the fact that Special Teams inexplicably sucks. xoxo~ Gaz Not at all surprised.
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