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Old 10-19-2004, 04:11 PM  
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Smartest State rankings 2004-2005

Inspired by SDChiefsFans thread about public education...

States Ranked: Smartest to Dumbest

The smartest state in the union for the second consecutive year is Massachusetts.

The dumbest, for the third year in a row, is New Mexico.

These are the findings of the Education State Rankings, a survey by Morgan Quitno Press of hundreds of public school systems in all 50 states. States were graded on a variety of factors based on how they compare to the national average. These included such positive attributes as per-pupil expenditures, public high school graduation rates, average class size, student reading and math proficiency, and pupil-teacher ratios. States received negative points for high drop-out rates and physical violence.

How does YOUR state rank?

1. Massachusetts
2. Connecticut
3. Vermont
4. New Jersey
5. Wisconsin
6. New York
7. Minnesota
8. Iowa
9. Pennsylvania
10. Montana


11. Maine
12. Virginia
13. Nebraska
14. New Hampshire
15. Kansas
16. Wyoming
17. Indiana
18. Maryland
19. North Dakota
20. Ohio


21. Colorado
22. South Dakota
23. Rhode Island
24. Illinois
25. North Carolina
26. Missouri
27. Delaware
28. Utah
29. Idaho
30. Washington


31. Michigan
32. South Carolina
33. Texas and West Virginia (tie)
35. Oregon
36. Arkansas
37. Kentucky
38. Georgia
39. Florida
40. Oklahoma


41. Tennessee
42. Hawaii
43. California
44. Alabama
45. Alaska
46. Louisiana
47. Mississippi
48. Arizona
49. Nevada
50. New Mexico

http://www.morganquitno.com/edrank.htm
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Old 10-20-2004, 06:11 AM   #61
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I have to agree. I lived in Northeastern Pennsylvania for 31 years. Some of the rural people make the southern rednecks look like scholars. And the Amish in Central PA, well we won't go there! Evertime I get called a yankee from Pennsylvania, I suggest my southern friends take a ride through Amish country.
Who woulda thought that some people from NE PA would'nt compare favorably to rednecks?
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Old 10-20-2004, 06:20 AM   #62
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Old 10-20-2004, 07:43 AM   #63
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Haha, nah dude, I actually went out for a few hours, now I'm back home to study. But, yeah I'd like to see a link or something, I mean it's kinda hard to just buy some random facts you are stating.

All I know is that KU is the 3rd best buy in the nation among public schools according to Fisk's guide (I'm not sure aout the title, but I saw it in the book this year, it's legit). And since it costs MORE than KSU and still is a MUCH BETTER buy tells me a something. Also, half my friends went to KSU so I kind of know what's it like, sucks for them.

We are also ranked 94th in the list of 130 top schools in the nation, KSU is not on the list... ( http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/col...udoc_brief.php )

I'll give KSU this, though, they do have a good engineering and agriculture schools.

PS Did you even go/are goig to KSU?
No.

Here's the link for the numbers. If you want it confirmed froma more independant source, knock yourself out.

http://www.mediarelations.ksu.edu/WE...entsindex.html

Here is a link from that page that lists some other achievements. And I post it despite the last "achievement" they have listed.
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Old 10-20-2004, 07:47 AM   #64
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All that tells me is that K-State has an excellent scholarship application assistance program. You really don't think that K-State and ASU are all-around better schools than Michigan and UVA, do you? And Montana State over Cal?

Unless I am mistaken, the students still have to meet certain standards to be accepted. Only a chickenhawker (uh, or a tigger)......
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Old 10-20-2004, 07:49 AM   #65
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8th my ass...
Would you rate Iowa higher or lower?

I personally believe public education in this state leaves ALOT to be desired.
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Old 10-20-2004, 07:53 AM   #66
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Would you rate Iowa higher or lower?

I personally believe public education in this state leaves ALOT to be desired.
Higher. Below New Jersey and New York? C'mon...

Although, as usual, Kerry will carry this state and I guess that explains a lot...
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Old 10-20-2004, 07:59 AM   #67
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Higher. Below New Jersey and New York? C'mon...

Although, as usual, Kerry will carry this state and I guess that explains a lot...
The education here is just so mediocre. No we don't have huge problems with illiteracy or drop-outs.

But we don't produce many hyper-intelligent future Ivy League prospects either...
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Old 10-20-2004, 08:17 AM   #68
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The education here is just so mediocre. No we don't have huge problems with illiteracy or drop-outs.

But we don't produce many hyper-intelligent future Ivy League prospects either...
a) We used to have the best educated high school kids in the country, IIRC

b) Speak for yourself. :P
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I think it is because Iowa only has about thousand students total and half are Mormans..
Mormons?
Anyone wondering abour MO's low number? Blame Valiant. He may be single-handedly bringing you down two spots.
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1. Massachusetts
2. Connecticut
3. Vermont
4. New Jersey
5. Wisconsin
6. New York
7. Minnesota
8. Iowa
9. Pennsylvania
10. Montana

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a) We used to have the best educated high school kids in the country, IIRC

b) Speak for yourself. :P
a) based on a test that was developed in IOWA

b) I meant other than myself.
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Anyone wondering abour MO's low number? Blame Valiant. He may be single-handedly bringing you down two spots.
Yeah, Valiant thinks Iowa is the "potato state".
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