Giambi Admits to doing Steriods - Page 2

Demonpenz · 12-02-2004, 11:46 AM

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Jason Giambi admitted to a federal grand jury that he took steroids and human growth hormone in 2003, according to transcripts of testimony obtained by the San Francisco Chronicle and published in the newspaper's Thursday editions.

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The New York Yankees slugger's admission in December 2003 contradicts denials he has made since then that he never took performance-enhancing drugs.

In the testimony obtained by the Chronicle, the former American League MVP told the grand jury investigating the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative steroids case that he used steroids obtained from Greg Anderson, the personal trainer for San Francisco Giants star Barry Bonds.

Anderson's attorney, Tony Serra, declined comment to the Chronicle, citing a court order.

Giambi did not implicate Bonds in his testimony; he pointed out that Anderson was secretive about who he was working for and what he was doing to help other professional athletes.

In the transcripts obtained by the Chronicle, Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Nedrow asked Giambi, "Did [Anderson] ever say, 'Don't be talking about getting stuff from me?' "

"That's what I mean by saying that he made it so, you know, private, that you know, 'Hey, don't say anything, don't talk about anything,' " Giambi told the grand jury. "You know, I assumed because he's Barry's trainer -- you know, Barry -- but he never said one time, 'This is what Barry's taking, this is what Barry's doing.' He never gave up another name that he was dealing with or doing anything with."

Bonds, a seven-time National League MVP, has denied using steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs.

Giambi's younger brother Jeremy, a former Oakland outfielder, also told the grand jury he injected banned drugs received from Anderson, the Chronicle reported.

Both Giambis said they had used steroids even earlier in their baseball careers. They were granted immunity from prosecution if they told the truth to the grand jury, but faced perjury charges if they did not.

Jason Giambi described to the grand jury how -- using syringes -- he injected human growth hormone into his stomach and testosterone into his buttocks.

Giambi called the products he obtained from Anderson "undetectable" steroids known as "the clear" and "the cream."

"The clear" is a liquid drug administered under the tongue a few drops at a time. "The cream" was described as a testosterone-based balm rubbed onto the body, the Chronicle reported.

Giambi said he obtained all the drugs -- and syringes -- except human growth hormone from Anderson. Giambi said he got the human growth hormone at a Gold's Gym in Las Vegas.

Jason Giambi
Jason Giambi was the AL MVP in 2000 with the Athletics.

Giambi testified Anderson sent him several different drugs, including testosterone, "the cream" and "the clear." Giambi added Anderson gave him advice on the use of human growth hormone.

"Did Mr. Anderson provide you with actual injectable testosterone?" Assistant U.S. Attorney Nedrow asked Giambi.

"Yes," replied Giambi.

Then, in reference to an alleged steroid calendar from January 2003, Nedrow asked, "OK. And this injectable T, or testosterone, is basically a steroid, correct?"

"Yes," Giambi replied

"And did he talk to you about the fact it was a steroid at the time?" Nedrow asked.

"Yeah, I mean, I -- I don't know if we got into a conversation about it, but we both knew about it, yes," Giambi told the grand jury.

Giambi said Anderson described "the cream" and "the clear" as "an alternative to steroids, but it doesn't show on a steroid test.

"And he started talking about that it would raise your testosterone levels, you know, which would basically make it a steroid ... or maybe he said it's an alternative of taking an injectable steroid. That might be a better way to put it."

Bonds brought Anderson on a barnstorming players' tour of Japan after the big-league season in 2002. Giambi said it was on that November trip he met the trainer.

In his testimony, Giambi said he asked Anderson about the things Bonds was doing to stay at an elite level.

"So I started to ask him: 'Hey, what are the things you're doing with Barry? He's an incredible player. I want to still be able to work out at that age and keep playing,' " Giambi testified. "And that's how the conversation first started."

According to the transcripts obtained by the Chronicle, Giambi testified he called Anderson after their return from overseas and then flew to the San Francisco area in either late November or early December to meet at a gym down the street from BALCO in Burlingame, Calif.

Giambi said the two went to a hospital for Giambi to provide blood and urine samples, which were then taken to BALCO.

According to the transcripts obtained by the Chronicle, Giambi said he and Anderson then began discussing various performance-enhancing drugs Anderson could supply. Also, when Anderson received the results of Giambi's blood and urine tests, Anderson told him he had tested positive for Deca-Durobolin -- a steroid Giambi said he had obtained from the Las Vegas gym -- and that he should discontinue its use because it could stay in his system a long time.

Giambi said Anderson assured him the drugs he provided in baseball's offseason would be out of his system before Giambi was called for a steroid test.

Giambi, a four-time All-Star who played his first seven seasons in Oakland, has been unable to duplicate his 2000 MVP success in three seasons with the Yankees. Giambi signed a seven-year, $120 million contract with the Yankees after the 2001 season.

He played with a knee injury in 2003 and missed more than half the 2004 season with an intestinal parasite and a benign tumor that reportedly was on his pituitary gland. The unusual ailments led many to question whether they were steroid related, but Giambi continued to deny ever taking steroids.

The Chronicle also reported Giambi testified he helped his younger brother obtain drugs from Anderson.

Jeremy Giambi told the grand jury Anderson described "the clear" and "the cream" as undetectable "alternatives to steroids."

"For all I knew, it could have been baby lotion," Jeremy Giambi told the grand jury.

Anderson, BALCO founder Victor Conte, vice president James Valente and track coach Remi Korchemny all have pleaded not guilty to the charges, which include steroid distribution.

**Saulbadguy** · 12-02-2004, 03:10 PM

Demonpenz · 12-02-2004, 03:54 PM

alot of people are going "Care" everyone loves to tear down hero's.

Demonpenz · 12-02-2004, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJake

You have no idea what your talking about

i was being fasicous

beavis · 12-02-2004, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by shakesthecat

Oh, I don't know. Maybe those that care about the integrity of the sport.

Or maybe someone like Henry Aaron, who did it the right way, only to watch some juiced up jackass like Bonds steal his record.

BIG_DADDY · 12-02-2004, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shakesthecat

Oh, I don't know. Maybe those that care about the integrity of the sport.

Or maybe someone like Henry Aaron, who did it the right way, only to watch some juiced up jackass like Bonds steal his record.

You pay the hundred million then, nothing has changed. Growth hormone still cannot be detected and Bonds who is under the gun is still rippen them at a level that makes him a MVP for the National league. Growth Hormone is still in every sport and has been since the late 70s. Sports has changed permanently and forever with technology. The search for performance enhancing supplements will never end we will just end up with a giant list of banned substances that the goverment will want to send people down the road for using.

BIG_DADDY · 12-02-2004, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

next on the cutting block is going to be barry bonds

I am going to laugh my ass off if they don't finger him after all the shit people have posted on this BB. I know, I know, you all would find him guilty anyway.

Demonpenz · 12-02-2004, 04:47 PM

with or without steriods, barry is still in the top 76 best baseball players who ever played

Deberg_1990 · 12-02-2004, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

with or without steriods, barry is still in the top 76 best baseball players who ever played

True, then why did he ever need to take the roids??

Demonpenz · 12-02-2004, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

True, then why did he ever need to take the roids??

He wanted to be one of the 50 best players that ever lived.

Miles · 12-02-2004, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

True, then why did he ever need to take the roids??

More power numbers which people tend to point to first when looking at great hitters.

BIG_DADDY · 12-02-2004, 04:54 PM

For those of you who support this whole Balco probe I have some questions for you.

1. Why should steroids be illegal and why should we be sending people down the river for using it? Don't tell me for health reasons either as I have shot it down over and over.

2. Why should professional sports be regulated by our government?

3. Why should tax payers dollars be used when many people don't give a rats ass about sports?

4. What is wrong with letting sports regulate themselves?

Deberg_1990 · 12-02-2004, 04:55 PM

Tommorow night on 20/20 they are doing a story on one of the Balco doctors. Supposedly he is going to name names.....we shall see...

**Saulbadguy** · 12-02-2004, 04:57 PM

I'm going to take steroids and punch you all in the FACE.

BIG_DADDY · 12-02-2004, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

True, then why did he ever need to take the roids??

The clairvoyant speaks again. Please tell me Deberg, what supplements do members of our own team use?

**Saulbadguy** · 12-02-2004, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

For those of you who support this whole Balco probe I have some questions for you.

1. Why should steroids be illegal and why should we be sending people down the river for using it? Don't tell me for health reasons either as I have shot it down over and over.

2. Why should professional sports be regulated by our government?

3. Why should tax payers dollars be used when many people don't give a rats ass about sports?

4. What is wrong with letting sports regulate themselves?

1. The government can't make money off it.

2. Ask George Bush.

3. Ask George Bush.

4. Ask George Bush.

12-02-2004, 11:46 AM
Demonpenz Woman should only make babies Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $1816136	Giambi Admits to doing Steriods http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1936592 Jason Giambi admitted to a federal grand jury that he took steroids and human growth hormone in 2003, according to transcripts of testimony obtained by the San Francisco Chronicle and published in the newspaper's Thursday editions. Jason Giambi Comes Clean # Giambi admits to using steroids ESPN Motion # Olney: Poster (bad) boy # Giambi chronology # Hearings on BALCO might happen # Stark: BALCO now a tornado # Your thoughts # Vote: Giambi and steroids # FAQ on steroids The New York Yankees slugger's admission in December 2003 contradicts denials he has made since then that he never took performance-enhancing drugs. In the testimony obtained by the Chronicle, the former American League MVP told the grand jury investigating the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative steroids case that he used steroids obtained from Greg Anderson, the personal trainer for San Francisco Giants star Barry Bonds. Anderson's attorney, Tony Serra, declined comment to the Chronicle, citing a court order. Giambi did not implicate Bonds in his testimony; he pointed out that Anderson was secretive about who he was working for and what he was doing to help other professional athletes. In the transcripts obtained by the Chronicle, Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Nedrow asked Giambi, "Did [Anderson] ever say, 'Don't be talking about getting stuff from me?' " "That's what I mean by saying that he made it so, you know, private, that you know, 'Hey, don't say anything, don't talk about anything,' " Giambi told the grand jury. "You know, I assumed because he's Barry's trainer -- you know, Barry -- but he never said one time, 'This is what Barry's taking, this is what Barry's doing.' He never gave up another name that he was dealing with or doing anything with." Bonds, a seven-time National League MVP, has denied using steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs. Giambi's younger brother Jeremy, a former Oakland outfielder, also told the grand jury he injected banned drugs received from Anderson, the Chronicle reported. Both Giambis said they had used steroids even earlier in their baseball careers. They were granted immunity from prosecution if they told the truth to the grand jury, but faced perjury charges if they did not. Jason Giambi described to the grand jury how -- using syringes -- he injected human growth hormone into his stomach and testosterone into his buttocks. Giambi called the products he obtained from Anderson "undetectable" steroids known as "the clear" and "the cream." "The clear" is a liquid drug administered under the tongue a few drops at a time. "The cream" was described as a testosterone-based balm rubbed onto the body, the Chronicle reported. Giambi said he obtained all the drugs -- and syringes -- except human growth hormone from Anderson. Giambi said he got the human growth hormone at a Gold's Gym in Las Vegas. Jason Giambi Jason Giambi was the AL MVP in 2000 with the Athletics. Giambi testified Anderson sent him several different drugs, including testosterone, "the cream" and "the clear." Giambi added Anderson gave him advice on the use of human growth hormone. "Did Mr. Anderson provide you with actual injectable testosterone?" Assistant U.S. Attorney Nedrow asked Giambi. "Yes," replied Giambi. Then, in reference to an alleged steroid calendar from January 2003, Nedrow asked, "OK. And this injectable T, or testosterone, is basically a steroid, correct?" "Yes," Giambi replied "And did he talk to you about the fact it was a steroid at the time?" Nedrow asked. "Yeah, I mean, I -- I don't know if we got into a conversation about it, but we both knew about it, yes," Giambi told the grand jury. Giambi said Anderson described "the cream" and "the clear" as "an alternative to steroids, but it doesn't show on a steroid test. "And he started talking about that it would raise your testosterone levels, you know, which would basically make it a steroid ... or maybe he said it's an alternative of taking an injectable steroid. That might be a better way to put it." Bonds brought Anderson on a barnstorming players' tour of Japan after the big-league season in 2002. Giambi said it was on that November trip he met the trainer. In his testimony, Giambi said he asked Anderson about the things Bonds was doing to stay at an elite level. "So I started to ask him: 'Hey, what are the things you're doing with Barry? He's an incredible player. I want to still be able to work out at that age and keep playing,' " Giambi testified. "And that's how the conversation first started." According to the transcripts obtained by the Chronicle, Giambi testified he called Anderson after their return from overseas and then flew to the San Francisco area in either late November or early December to meet at a gym down the street from BALCO in Burlingame, Calif. Giambi said the two went to a hospital for Giambi to provide blood and urine samples, which were then taken to BALCO. According to the transcripts obtained by the Chronicle, Giambi said he and Anderson then began discussing various performance-enhancing drugs Anderson could supply. Also, when Anderson received the results of Giambi's blood and urine tests, Anderson told him he had tested positive for Deca-Durobolin -- a steroid Giambi said he had obtained from the Las Vegas gym -- and that he should discontinue its use because it could stay in his system a long time. Giambi said Anderson assured him the drugs he provided in baseball's offseason would be out of his system before Giambi was called for a steroid test. Giambi, a four-time All-Star who played his first seven seasons in Oakland, has been unable to duplicate his 2000 MVP success in three seasons with the Yankees. Giambi signed a seven-year, $120 million contract with the Yankees after the 2001 season. He played with a knee injury in 2003 and missed more than half the 2004 season with an intestinal parasite and a benign tumor that reportedly was on his pituitary gland. The unusual ailments led many to question whether they were steroid related, but Giambi continued to deny ever taking steroids. The Chronicle also reported Giambi testified he helped his younger brother obtain drugs from Anderson. Jeremy Giambi told the grand jury Anderson described "the clear" and "the cream" as undetectable "alternatives to steroids." "For all I knew, it could have been baby lotion," Jeremy Giambi told the grand jury. Anderson, BALCO founder Victor Conte, vice president James Valente and track coach Remi Korchemny all have pleaded not guilty to the charges, which include steroid distribution.
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