The Pope John Paul II

[Clint in Wichita]

Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

Then it must be true.

The Travel Channel, or a 2,000 year old book written by men.

I don't see why one is clearly a more reliable source of information than the other.

[C-Mac]

Originally Posted by Clint in Wichita

The Travel Channel, or a 2,000 year old book written by men.

I don't see why one is clearly a more reliable source of information than the other.

Intersting that not until this century that certain names and places that were only noted in this old book and have been refuted as fiction, that thru recently found artifacts were actually found to be true.

[Clint in Wichita]

Originally Posted by C-Mac

Intersting that not until this century that certain names and places that were only noted in this old book and have been refuted as fiction, that thru recently found artifacts were actually found to be true.

The fact that the Bible names proper names of people and places means nothing.

Stephen King and Tom Clancy (for example) do the same thing.

[C-Mac]

Originally Posted by Clint in Wichita

The fact that the Bible names proper names of people and places means nothing.

Stephen King and Tom Clancy (for example) do the same thing.

No you didnt understand what I said. Certain names and places had only been historically recorded in the bible. For example, the name Pontius Pilate had only been found in the bible, there were no secular written historical documents or artifacts proving him existing as a political ruler or even a person......until recently.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Originally Posted by Clint in Wichita

The fact that the Bible names proper names of people and places means nothing.

Stephen King and Tom Clancy (for example) do the same thing.

Honest questions:

Who do you believe wrote the Bible?

How old do you believe the Bible is?

[Clint in Wichita]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Honest questions:

Who do you believe wrote the Bible?

How old do you believe the Bible is?

1. Politicians/Leaders of some sort, who sought power/control over the then ignorant masses.

2. It's been pieced together, added to, and abridged over many centuries, but I think the oldest parts probably have their roots in text originally written about 2,000 years ago.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Originally Posted by Clint in Wichita

1. Politicians/Leaders of some sort, who sought power/control over the then ignorant masses.

Ok, but this is something that you just think, right? I mean, you've never read that anywhere. Just curious.

2. It's been pieced together, added to, and abridged over many centuries, but I think the oldest parts probably have their roots in text originally written about 2,000 years ago.

But the Old Testament is much older than 2000 years according to the Jewish religion. Is it your contention that those tomes were written by Gentiles sometime in the last 2000 years?

I guess I know that you can't be convinced of God's existence on a web forum, but the historical text known as the Bible has a well documented history, which you seem to be ignoring if you think it was written simply to goof everybody. It seems like you might view Christianity as Judaism 2.0 or something. Judaism existed before Christianity, and Christians subscribe to the Jewish text as well, so when did the farce begin?