Kevin Johnson Coming for a Visit - Page 2

Archie Bunker · 01:11 AM

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CHIEFS NOTEBOOK

Ravens receiver Johnson to visit

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star

The Chiefs' meeting with Kevin Johnson, postponed from last month, was scheduled to begin with the free-agent wide receiver's arrival in Kansas City today.

Johnson represents the Chiefs' best chance to improve at wide receiver through free agency. They may also select a receiver in an early round of the draft later this month.

The Chiefs have long been interested in Johnson. They tried to trade for him when he was with Cleveland three years ago.

Johnson then was coming off a career-best season when he caught 84 passes for 1,097 yards and scored nine touchdowns. His numbers have since dropped, and he moved from the Browns to Jacksonville and Baltimore.

He had a career-low 35 catches last season, though even that led the passing-challenged Ravens.

“We're just taking a look right now,” Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said. “I'm just curious as to why he can't stay on a roster. He's been a productive player.”

The Chiefs would like to add at least one more player to their receiving mix. Starters Eddie Kennison and Johnnie Morton are over 30. Samie Parker played well toward the end of his rookie season, but the Chiefs aren't convinced he's ready to be a full-time player.

The other leading receiving candidates are Dante Hall, Chris Horn and Marc Boerigter, who is coming off a knee injury that cost him all of last season.

“You always want to try to upgrade everything you do, including the players you coach,” Vermeil said. “You can say we're comfortable with our wide receivers, but in this business you don't know which guy is going to get hurt or which guy is all of a sudden not going to be as good as he was because he's getting older.”

• PUNTER WORKS OUT: The Chiefs' search for training camp competition for punter Nick Murphy led them Tuesday to veteran Chris Mohr, who worked out at Arrowhead Stadium.

Mohr, 38, is a 15-year veteran with Tampa Bay, Buffalo and Atlanta. Mohr is known for his towering punts that are easy to cover. The Falcons last year allowed the fewest punt return yards in the NFL.

Eleazar · 04-06-2005, 07:34 AM

This is hilarious. They get berated for having sucky recievers and they get berated for bringing one in. There is an indication that they might select one in the draft so he's automatically another Sylvester Morris. How exactly do you people expect them to get better without drafting them in the early rounds and without bringing people in?

**the Talking Can** · 04-06-2005, 07:39 AM

as someone else noted, the signing of Hall and now Johnson coming in may mean the Chiefs are set with Surtain and know what the cap hit will be....I hope so...Johnson has talent and could be a good pick up, I'm all for it

trndobrd · 04-06-2005, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

This is hilarious. They get berated for having sucky recievers and they get berated for bringing one in. There is an indication that they might select one in the draft so he's automatically another Sylvester Morris. How exactly do you people expect them to get better without drafting them in the early rounds and without bringing people in?

It's not a question of Chiefs receivers being sucky. Or even drafting sucky receivers. It's the consistently poor results from drafting receivers in the first round.

Eleazar · 04-06-2005, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by trndobrd

It's the consistently poor results from drafting receivers in the first round.

Oh, who was the last WR that the Chiefs picked in the 1st before Sylvester Morris...?

I see we have Anthony Hancock in 1982... Elmo Wright in 1971...

I guess you can call this regime's first round WR's "consistently poor" since there's only been one

Fat Elvis · 04-06-2005, 07:53 AM

The knock on Johnson is that he runs an eight yard route on 3rd and nine. Apparently he falls down if you even look at him like you are going to hit him. He does have good hands from what I understand.

**CosmicPal** · 04-06-2005, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dave0320

Sign this guy today Carl and trade Morton to the Donks.

You don't make trades with your own division rival. Now, you could probably trade him to Minnesota or Philly. They both have a lot of picks and some free money. But, neither of them would give us any more than a fifth or sixth rounder for him.

jarjar · 04-06-2005, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by trndobrd

It's the consistently poor results from drafting receivers in the first round.

No it's a case of consistently bitching and whining and moaning about everything because it's become a fing reflex.

Gaz · 04-06-2005, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jidar

No it's a case of consistently bitching and whining and moaning about everything because it's become a fing reflex.

That is my observation as well.

Except for the “fing” bit.

xoxo~
Gaz
Does not want his mouth washed out with soap.

milkman · 04-06-2005, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal

You don't make trades with your own division rival. Now, you could probably trade him to Minnesota or Philly. They both have a lot of picks and some free money. But, neither of them would give us any more than a fifth or sixth rounder for him.

5th or 6th rounder!
I'd jump on that deal.
It'd be a freakin' steal.

trndobrd · 04-06-2005, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise

Oh, who was the last WR that the Chiefs picked in the 1st before Sylvester Morris...?

I see we have Anthony Hancock in 1982... Elmo Wright in 1971...

I guess you can call this regime's first round WR's "consistently poor" since there's only been one

For some reason I was thinking Snoop Minnis was drafted on the first day. You are absolutely right. Draft away!

shaneo69 · 04-06-2005, 08:19 AM

I have two questions here.

When DV yells for Johnny Johnson, which WR will come running over?

More importantly, with KJ's supposed friendship with former college teammate Donny McNabb and the Eagles lack of WR talent outside of TO, why isn't Philly all over this guy? Guess it goes back to DV's question about why he can't stick in one place.

I really like the way DV is able to woo the free agents with his glowing public comments though.

jspchief · 04-06-2005, 08:23 AM

I'm not real big on K Johnson, but I'm not real big on Morton either. I'd be willing to give the guy a look. But to be honest, I don't see anything to make me think he's better than Morton. He's the same size, I don't know if he's faster (I can only assume he is), and he's been less productive over his career. I'm sure the teams he played on were part of it, but he's just nothing special IMO. It feels like we're just getting another Kennison/Morton...an average NFL WR.

Eleazar · 04-06-2005, 08:28 AM

After having his best season as a Chief, I have to wonder, if Morton sucked as bad as everyone around here says he does, wouldn't he be gone too?

**the Talking Can** · 04-06-2005, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

I'm not real big on K Johnson, but I'm not real big on Morton either. I'd be willing to give the guy a look. But to be honest, I don't see anything to make me think he's better than Morton. He's the same size, I don't know if he's faster (I can only assume he is), and he's been less productive over his career. I'm sure the teams he played on were part of it, but he's just nothing special IMO. It feels like we're just getting another Kennison/Morton...an average NFL WR.

Johnson has 2 things going for him:

1. He's not Johhny Morton
1a. He's not gay like Johhny Morton
2. He's cheaper than a gay Johnny Morton

the dude has averaged about 60 catches a year, prior to last year....

tomahawk kid · 04-06-2005, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise

Oh, who was the last WR that the Chiefs picked in the 1st before Sylvester Morris...?

I see we have Anthony Hancock in 1982... Elmo Wright in 1971...

I guess you can call this regime's first round WR's "consistently poor" since there's only been one

Didn't we get some pretty good years out of Elmo?

04-06-2005, 01:06 AM
Archie Bunker The Wait Is Over Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Random Small Town Casino cash: $-701022	Kevin Johnson Coming for a Visit http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/11319912.htm CHIEFS NOTEBOOK Ravens receiver Johnson to visit By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star The Chiefs' meeting with Kevin Johnson, postponed from last month, was scheduled to begin with the free-agent wide receiver's arrival in Kansas City today. Johnson represents the Chiefs' best chance to improve at wide receiver through free agency. They may also select a receiver in an early round of the draft later this month. The Chiefs have long been interested in Johnson. They tried to trade for him when he was with Cleveland three years ago. Johnson then was coming off a career-best season when he caught 84 passes for 1,097 yards and scored nine touchdowns. His numbers have since dropped, and he moved from the Browns to Jacksonville and Baltimore. He had a career-low 35 catches last season, though even that led the passing-challenged Ravens. “We're just taking a look right now,” Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said. “I'm just curious as to why he can't stay on a roster. He's been a productive player.” The Chiefs would like to add at least one more player to their receiving mix. Starters Eddie Kennison and Johnnie Morton are over 30. Samie Parker played well toward the end of his rookie season, but the Chiefs aren't convinced he's ready to be a full-time player. The other leading receiving candidates are Dante Hall, Chris Horn and Marc Boerigter, who is coming off a knee injury that cost him all of last season. “You always want to try to upgrade everything you do, including the players you coach,” Vermeil said. “You can say we're comfortable with our wide receivers, but in this business you don't know which guy is going to get hurt or which guy is all of a sudden not going to be as good as he was because he's getting older.” • PUNTER WORKS OUT: The Chiefs' search for training camp competition for punter Nick Murphy led them Tuesday to veteran Chris Mohr, who worked out at Arrowhead Stadium. Mohr, 38, is a 15-year veteran with Tampa Bay, Buffalo and Atlanta. Mohr is known for his towering punts that are easy to cover. The Falcons last year allowed the fewest punt return yards in the NFL. Last edited by Archie Bunker; 04-06-2005 at 01:11 AM..
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04-06-2005, 07:34 AM	#16
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	This is hilarious. They get berated for having sucky recievers and they get berated for bringing one in. There is an indication that they might select one in the draft so he's automatically another Sylvester Morris. How exactly do you people expect them to get better without drafting them in the early rounds and without bringing people in?
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the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9192208	as someone else noted, the signing of Hall and now Johnson coming in may mean the Chiefs are set with Surtain and know what the cap hit will be....I hope so...Johnson has talent and could be a good pick up, I'm all for it __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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Fat Elvis Sexiest Athlete Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $-2028075	The knock on Johnson is that he runs an eight yard route on 3rd and nine. Apparently he falls down if you even look at him like you are going to hit him. He does have good hands from what I understand.
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04-06-2005, 08:19 AM	#26
shaneo69 Smug Weasel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bleachers at Busch Casino cash: $10004900	I have two questions here. When DV yells for Johnny Johnson, which WR will come running over? More importantly, with KJ's supposed friendship with former college teammate Donny McNabb and the Eagles lack of WR talent outside of TO, why isn't Philly all over this guy? Guess it goes back to DV's question about why he can't stick in one place. I really like the way DV is able to woo the free agents with his glowing public comments though. __________________ "I like Chiefs president Carl Peterson. I respect his business savvy. I envy his management skills and his penchant never to be driven by the whims of popularity. I admire his willingness to take responsibility for decisions that don’t work out the way he would have wanted." - Rufus, from KCChiefs.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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04-06-2005, 08:23 AM	#27
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	I'm not real big on K Johnson, but I'm not real big on Morton either. I'd be willing to give the guy a look. But to be honest, I don't see anything to make me think he's better than Morton. He's the same size, I don't know if he's faster (I can only assume he is), and he's been less productive over his career. I'm sure the teams he played on were part of it, but he's just nothing special IMO. It feels like we're just getting another Kennison/Morton...an average NFL WR. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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04-06-2005, 08:28 AM	#28
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	After having his best season as a Chief, I have to wonder, if Morton sucked as bad as everyone around here says he does, wouldn't he be gone too?
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