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Old 04-20-2005, 03:33 PM   #1
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Okay, but would you spit on her?
Probably not, but she shouldn't jay-walk in my neighborhood either.

The Supreme court has recognized that there are words and actions so offensive that justify a violent reaction. So this guy was just saving it up until he had the opportunity. Can't blame him either.
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Old 04-20-2005, 03:37 PM   #2
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Probably not, but she shouldn't jay-walk in my neighborhood either.

The Supreme court has recognized that there are words and actions so offensive that justify a violent reaction. So this guy was just saving it up until he had the opportunity. Can't blame him either.
I don't know a lot about the law, but I would guess those words or actions have to be directed at you before you are legally allowed to respond.

And, apparently the police that arrested him agree with me.
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Old 04-20-2005, 03:39 PM   #3
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I don't know a lot about the law, but I would guess those words or actions have to be directed at you before you are legally allowed to respond.

And, apparently the police that arrested him agree with me.
I guess if you want to be intentionally obtuse, and ignore whether or not she did any harm to servicemen in those days, then you could say he had no right to respond.

Sounds like a business transaction to me. He paid a hundred bucks or whatever a disorderly conduct citation costs, and got to spit on Jane Fonda.

Hell, for that price, people would line up around the block for their turn.
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Old 04-20-2005, 03:43 PM   #4
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I guess if you want to be intentionally obtuse, and ignore whether or not she did any harm to servicemen in those days, then you could say he had no right to respond.

Sounds like a business transaction to me. He paid a hundred bucks or whatever a disorderly conduct citation costs, and got to spit on Jane Fonda.

Hell, for that price, people would line up around the block for their turn.
Like I said, I don't know much about what she did. I wasn't even born. I admit to being out of my element. I still think that anyone who holds a grudge for 30 years has some issues.

I agree with you on the business transaction thing, though. I'm sure he's prefectly willing to pay his fine.
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Old 04-20-2005, 04:11 PM   #5
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Like I said, I don't know much about what she did. I wasn't even born. I admit to being out of my element. I still think that anyone who holds a grudge for 30 years has some issues.

I agree with you on the business transaction thing, though. I'm sure he's prefectly willing to pay his fine.
She not only protested the war, she went to Vietnam and blew three regiments of Viet Cong to get their spirits up. She posed for pictures on anti-aircraft guns, smiling and grab assing with the VC.

If you were getting shot at or had friends or family that had been killed in Viet Nam, wouldn't you hold a grudge if some dumb Hollywood twat posed for pictures smiling and laughing with the same men that murdered Americans, while sitting on a gun that was used to murder Americans?

People die in wars, and people have a right to protest wars, but what she did was above and beyond disloyal and unpatriotic. She went from Barbarella to Hanoi Jane, and ended her opportunity of being one of the biggest actresses of that time.

Speaking of no brains and big mouths ruining your career, I haven't heard much from the Dixie Chicks lately.
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Old 04-20-2005, 04:19 PM   #6
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If you were getting shot at or had friends or family that had been killed in Viet Nam, wouldn't you hold a grudge if some dumb Hollywood twat posed for pictures smiling and laughing with the same men that murdered Americans, while sitting on a gun that was used to murder Americans?
I doubt I'd hold a grude for 35 years, but I certainly would have been pissed. Still, I wouldn't have spit inher face.

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Speaking of no brains and big mouths ruining your career, I haven't heard much from the Dixie Chicks lately.
Don't get me started on that one. Natalie Maines was completly idiotic to say what she said, from a PR standpoint. For being so dumb, she deserves the drop in populatlirty the Chicks have received. Still, why ANYONE would choose what music they buy based on the political views of the artist is beyond me. If I'm buying music, I'm buying it based on one thing: how good the music is. I couldn't care less about an artist's political beliefs. A musician is only good to me for one thing: music.

Similarly, wheter you agree with Tim Robbins' political beliefs or not, I should think that your opinion on him would be based on his ability to act, since that is what he is. He's an actor, and I couldn't really give a damn what he thinks about politics. I'll look to politicans for political takes. An actor is only good to me for one thing: acting.

For the record, I completly stand by your right to boycott the Chicks or Tim Robbins -- I just think it's kinda of silly, and I wouldn't do it myself. But if you want to, more power to ya.
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I guess if you want to be intentionally obtuse, and ignore whether or not she did any harm to servicemen in those days, then you could say he had no right to respond.

Sounds like a business transaction to me. He paid a hundred bucks or whatever a disorderly conduct citation costs, and got to spit on Jane Fonda.

Hell, for that price, people would line up around the block for their turn.
$100???

Heck, where do we sign up?

I might be tempted to blow a few hundred and treat some friends....
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Old 04-20-2005, 03:41 PM   #9
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I don't know a lot about the law, but I would guess those words or actions have to be directed at you before you are legally allowed to respond.

And, apparently the police that arrested him agree with me.
This thing goes to trial the prosecution better make god damned sure there isn't a single vietnam vet on that jury or this fella walks. And can you imagine the public outcry against her should she choose to see this taken to trial? Book sales would tank and she would have to pretend to fly a plane into the World Trade Center to get enough notoriety to write another book to apologize for her bullshit actions.
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