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Old 04-20-2005, 04:44 PM   #1
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Shoot, we used to execute traitors.
Right. We used to call black people ******s and make them ride in the back of the bus, too. And then we grew up into a (more) civilized world.
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Old 04-20-2005, 04:47 PM   #2
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Right. We used to call black people ******s and make them ride in the back of the bus, too. And then we grew up into a (more) civilized world.
Apples and oranges.

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Old 04-20-2005, 04:48 PM   #3
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Apples and oranges.

Just in case some here haven't seen it, here's one of the infamous pictures:
It is Apples and Oranges, you're right. But still -- just because we USED to execute people doesn't mean we still should do anything of the sort.

That picture is ****ed up. This chick definitely comes off as a traitor. I certainly don't blame anyone who feels a hatred towards her.
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Old 04-20-2005, 04:51 PM   #4
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It is Apples and Oranges, you're right. But still -- just because we USED to execute people doesn't mean we still should do anything of the sort.

That picture is ****ed up. This chick definitely comes off as a traitor. I certainly don't blame anyone who feels a hatred towards her.
Oh, I don't know. I think that giving aid and comfort to the enemy during time of war is one of the better justifications of executing someone.

That and not washing one's legs with any relative frequency.
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Old 04-20-2005, 04:52 PM   #5
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Oh, I don't know. I think that giving aid and comfort to the enemy during time of war is one of the better justifications of executing someone.

That and not washing one's legs with any relative frequency.
Well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, then. I'm personally not a fan of execution except in very, very rare circumstances (which at least have to include breaking the law).
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Old 04-20-2005, 04:54 PM   #6
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Well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, then. I'm personally not a fan of execution except in very, very rare circumstances.
Whew. Donger dodges the noose yet again.

But, I would like to add to the list those that insist on using repeating commas in their posts; AKA, a commatard.
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Well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, then. I'm personally not a fan of execution except in very, very rare circumstances (which at least have to include breaking the law).
Are you under some kind of notion that there are no laws against treason?
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Old 04-20-2005, 05:00 PM   #9
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Are you under some kind of notion that there are no laws against treason?
No, but I am under the notion that Jane Fonda was never convicted or even charged with such a thing. Am I incorrect (it's quite possible -- this is the first I've ever really heard of what she did)?
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Right. We used to call black people ******s And then we grew up into a (more) civilized world.
I guess rappers haven't been so quick to catch on and grow up????
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

Read it. It's the most interesting book I've ever read in my life.

I don't really defend hip-hop artists or any black folks for using that word, but you and I both know they are using it to take the power away from us white people, so them using it is totally different than us using it. Not saying it's right, but it's, again, apples and oranges.

Similarly, the n-word is so far beyond almost every other racial slur out there. Comparing it to most others is completly absurd.

Read the book, it's interesting.
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She got off easily, IMO.
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Right. We used to call black people ******s and make them ride in the back of the bus, too. And then we grew up into a (more) civilized world.
Wow, in a sea of generally benign regurgitation of old gripes, we get this exchange. Leaving aside the argument whether or not Jane IS a traitor, please tell me, jcroft, that you don't feel that our outlook on traitors should evolve as our collective outlook on blacks have over the past century. Traitors are condemned for good reason due to actions completely at their own agency. Completely the opposite of blacks, who were condemned without good reason for an inborn distinction completely out of their control, and completely irrelevant to boot.
A call to evolve into a more 'civilized' metrosexual outlook on traitors is not called for at all, IMO. They purposely, and of their own free will, act at odds to our basic societal safety and security, and for that they deserve to die.
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Wow, in a sea of generally benign regurgitation of old gripes, we get this exchange. Leaving aside the argument whether or not Jane IS a traitor, please tell me, jcroft, that you don't feel that our outlook on traitors should evolve as our collective outlook on blacks have over the past century. Traitors are condemned for good reason due to actions completely at their own agency. Completely the opposite of blacks, who were condemned without good reason for an inborn distinction completely out of their control, and completely irrelevant to boot.
A call to evolve into a more 'civilized' metrosexual outlook on traitors is not called for at all, IMO. They purposely, and of their own free will, act at odds to our basic societal safety and security, and for that they deserve to die.
That has got to be the longest definition of 'apples and oranges' that I've ever seen.
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