Gunther on Surtain - Page 2

**Donger** · 04-22-2005, 02:46 PM

“The most important thing about Patrick Surtain is that he’s a tremendous cover guy. He comes up with the ball and he gets turnovers. He fits the mold of James Hasty or a Dale Carter in terms of his coverage skills. He’s a playmaker. He brings an attitude and intensity to our secondary. Opposing teams are going to know that he’s out there and are going to have to account for him. Hopefully his leadership will inspire confidence in the rest of our defensive backs and the rest of our defense.

“The number one priority for our defense in the off-season was to add explosion. When the Kansas City Chiefs were a force on defense, you could the feel the explosion and you could see the turnovers. Sammy Knight and Patrick Surtain have proven they can take the ball away. Kendrell Bell gives us the ability to have a blitzing linebacker who can wreak havoc on the quarterback in the passing game. Carlos Hall does the same thing. He can close fast on the quarterback or the ball carrier. To me, the work that Carl (Peterson), Denny (Thum), Coach Vermeil and the entire organization has put in has been tremendous. They developed a plan and the plan was followed. We targeted specific players and we’ve added four players to our defense who I consider to be playmakers.”

- Gunther Cunningham
Chiefs Defensive Coordinator

stevieray · 04-22-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Still pissed off that they didn't do this last year.

This is like getting a brand new Porsche for free and not liking the color.

Cannibal · 04-22-2005, 04:23 PM

During his early years in KC Carter was a dominate corner. One of the Madden games had a highlight of Carter playing catch up and leaping about 5 feet in the air to tip a ball away. He was a great player in his prime. Probably could've played himself into the HOF if had his head on straight.

**Baby Lee** · 04-22-2005, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieficus

Just hope its more Hasty and less Carter...

Anyone remember which game it was, I think it was in 97, where the commentators were going on endlessly about how EVERY pass attempt was a coverage sack. They didn't get a receiver open all game with Carter and Hasty back there.

**Rain Man** · 04-22-2005, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

This is like getting a brand new Porsche for free and not liking the color.

Are you calling him a racist?

Chieficus · 04-22-2005, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Anyone remember which game it was, I think it was in 97, where the commentators were going on endlessly about how EVERY pass attempt was a coverage sack. They didn't get a receiver open all game with Carter and Hasty back there.

No doubt, Carter played well especially early on, but... he proved to be anything but consistent and began to be burnt more and more. By his final year with us, Hasty was a much better player...

stevieray · 04-22-2005, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Are you calling him a racist?

Only if he used a slur towards the car.

Ultra Peanut · 04-22-2005, 04:33 PM

BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!

stevieray · 04-22-2005, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal

He was a great player in his prime. Probably could've played himself into the HOF if had his head on straight.

no doubt.

Hammock Parties · 04-22-2005, 04:34 PM

The Chiefs got a porsche...the Donks got 4 pintos.

beer bacon · 04-22-2005, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

The Chiefs got a porsche...the Donks got 4 pintos.

First round bust pintos mind you.

Cannibal · 04-22-2005, 04:37 PM

I'm very excited about this, but let's not go overboard people. The Surtain deal could end up like the Champ Bailey deal for all we know. I'm excited, but my optimism is also somewhat guarded.

stevieray · 04-22-2005, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal

I'm very excited about this, but let's not go overboard people. The Surtain deal could end up like the Champ Bailey deal for all we know. I'm excited, but my optimism is also somewhat guarded.

not me...gunther, baby!! i think we're gonna be solid. I'll even take a chance and say Wilkerson takes Hicks starting job.

besides, we're talking about the Invescos, who think they're better even when they lose.

Logical · 04-22-2005, 04:41 PM

We definitely are contenders for a playoff win this year I believe. IMO we still are one OLB away and a pretty much injury free season away from being Super Bowl contenders.

Logical · 04-22-2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

This is like getting a brand new Porsche for free and not liking the color.

Funny line but I don't really get it. We could have been a contender last year had Carl done this during last offseason. I would think anyone would acknowledge that would have been a good thing.

Cannibal · 04-22-2005, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

not me...gunther, baby!! i think we're gonna be solid. I'll even take a chance and say Wilkerson takes Hicks starting job.

besides, we're talking about the Invescos, who think they're better even when they lose.

I hope like hell you're correct. But I do agree that one of the final peices of the puzzle is for somebody to put Hicks on the bench.

04-22-2005, 02:46 PM
Donger "Think BOOM!" Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 33.675° N 106.475° W Casino cash: $6809900 VARSITY	Gunther on Surtain “The most important thing about Patrick Surtain is that he’s a tremendous cover guy. He comes up with the ball and he gets turnovers. He fits the mold of James Hasty or a Dale Carter in terms of his coverage skills. He’s a playmaker. He brings an attitude and intensity to our secondary. Opposing teams are going to know that he’s out there and are going to have to account for him. Hopefully his leadership will inspire confidence in the rest of our defensive backs and the rest of our defense. “The number one priority for our defense in the off-season was to add explosion. When the Kansas City Chiefs were a force on defense, you could the feel the explosion and you could see the turnovers. Sammy Knight and Patrick Surtain have proven they can take the ball away. Kendrell Bell gives us the ability to have a blitzing linebacker who can wreak havoc on the quarterback in the passing game. Carlos Hall does the same thing. He can close fast on the quarterback or the ball carrier. To me, the work that Carl (Peterson), Denny (Thum), Coach Vermeil and the entire organization has put in has been tremendous. They developed a plan and the plan was followed. We targeted specific players and we’ve added four players to our defense who I consider to be playmakers.” - Gunther Cunningham Chiefs Defensive Coordinator
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04-22-2005, 04:23 PM	#17
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	During his early years in KC Carter was a dominate corner. One of the Madden games had a highlight of Carter playing catch up and leaping about 5 feet in the air to tip a ball away. He was a great player in his prime. Probably could've played himself into the HOF if had his head on straight.
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04-22-2005, 04:37 PM	#26
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	I'm very excited about this, but let's not go overboard people. The Surtain deal could end up like the Champ Bailey deal for all we know. I'm excited, but my optimism is also somewhat guarded.
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04-22-2005, 04:41 PM	#28
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	We definitely are contenders for a playoff win this year I believe. IMO we still are one OLB away and a pretty much injury free season away from being Super Bowl contenders.
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