NFT: Royals Sweeney trade value?

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

I'm pretty sure the player's union doesn't allow contract restructuring. I know they didn't allow ARod to do it when he was trying to get traded.

I would rather not trade Sweeney to the Yanks, I would hate to see him play for Steinbrenner. I would much rather keep him give him to NY.

Yeah, you are correct on the contract restructure. I forgot that about MLB......

I'd have no problems trading Sweeney straight up to the Yanks for Kevin Thompson. The kids a player. A look at your 2006 Royals OF

Thompson in LF (plus, he is a legit leadoff hitter) 25 yrs old
David DeJesus in CF (Now, he can bat 2nd) 25 yrs old
Cory Aldrige (Can bat 3-5, but has to get the K's down) 25 yrs old

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Yeah, you are correct on the contract restructure. I forgot that about MLB......

I'd have no problems trading Sweeney straight up to the Yanks for Kevin Thompson. The kids a player. A look at your 2006 Royals OF

Thompson in LF (plus, he is a legit leadoff hitter) 25 yrs old
David DeJesus in CF (Now, he can bat 2nd) 25 yrs old
Cory Aldrige (Can bat 3-5, but has to get the K's down) 25 yrs old

I guess I value Sweeney a lot more then some of you do. Sure, it sucks that he had a couple injuries, but when healthy he is one of the best hitters in the game. Trading him straight up for a minor leaguer in his mid 20's doesn't seem like a very good deal to me, I would at least want another quality pitching prospect. Even then, the thought of Harvey playing everyday at 1st or DH (when Huber comes up) is enough to make me sick. Let's keep Sweeney and pair him with Huber, that could be a great combination.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

I guess I value Sweeney a lot more then some of you do. Sure, it sucks that he had a couple injuries, but when healthy he is one of the best hitters in the game. Trading him straight up for a minor leaguer in his mid 20's doesn't seem like a very good deal to me, I would at least want another quality pitching prospect. Even then, the thought of Harvey playing everyday at 1st or DH (when Huber comes up) is enough to make me sick. Let's keep Sweeney and pair him with Huber, that could be a great combination.

I just gotta ask, but why do you want to keep Sweeney around, when this team won't be ready to make a charge until 2007?

At that point, he'll have 1 yr left on the contract, and absolutley NO trade value for the most part. Mike, with his health issues, has about 2 more really productive seasons in his tank. He's not part of the future, and the only stick in our MLB club that has trade value. Not to mention, we've got a great deal of talent in the minors at 1b (Huber and Pressley in AA, and Kaaihue in A ball is just ripping it up).

Watching Harvey play every day at 1b, while Huber and Pressley get ready, doesn't bother me at all. I mean, really, what are playing for this year anyway?

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

I just gotta ask, but why do you want to keep Sweeney around, when this team won't be ready to make a charge until 2007?

At that point, he'll have 1 yr left on the contract, and absolutley NO trade value for the most part. Mike, with his health issues, has about 2 more really productive seasons in his tank. He's not part of the future, and the only stick in our MLB club that has trade value. Not to mention, we've got a great deal of talent in the minors at 1b (Huber and Pressley in AA, and Kaaihue in A ball is just ripping it up).

Watching Harvey play every day at 1b, while Huber and Pressley get ready, doesn't bother me at all. I mean, really, what are playing for this year anyway?

In defense, I have to ask you how do you know that we have no shot at making a charge until 2007? I know it sounds far-fetched, but this team really isn't that far off. We have the young pitchers, now we just need some offense, which is much easier to find. We have a young nucleus of positional players (Dejesus, Teahen, Gotay, Buck, Huber and Butler on the way), why trade our best player and leader now? I think we could finish this season strong and make a charge next year, it's not like we are getting blown out every game.

I would much rather trade Berroa right now, I think he is worthless and he might get as much in return as Sweeney.

[SCTrojan]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

I would much rather trade Berroa right now, I think he is worthless and he might get as much in return as Sweeney.

I'm with you there. Do the Angels need a shortstop?

[nomad]

Originally Posted by SCTrojan

I'm with you there. Do the Angels need a shortstop?

Can't help you there.. the Angels signed Orlando Cabrera to a 4 year deal this past winter. Way too much money, for too long when we had eckstein and a TON of talent at 2nd/ss in the minors.

You and Berroa kinda sound like me and Darren Erstad.

Love to trade him, even though he is considered a clubhouse leader and true gamer. I'd like to have a power guy at 1B or at least at DH (Sweeney).

What exactly are Sweeneys contract numbers??

Big I know, but for how long??

[SCTrojan]

Originally Posted by nomad

What exactly are Sweeneys contract numbers??

Big I know, but for how long??

Sweeney gets something like $11 million a year. He's signed through 2007.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by nomad

What exactly are Sweeneys contract numbers??

Big I know, but for how long??

He is in the 3rd year of a 5 year $55MM deal. You want some?

I'd be willing to bet that the Royals would eat a big portion of this year just to rid themselves of final 2 years of that contract. That said, I think his salary jumps from $11MM/YR to $12.5MM/YR if he's traded.....

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

In defense, I have to ask you how do you know that we have no shot at making a charge until 2007? I know it sounds far-fetched, but this team really isn't that far off. We have the young pitchers, now we just need some offense, which is much easier to find. We have a young nucleus of positional players (Dejesus, Teahen, Gotay, Buck, Huber and Butler on the way), why trade our best player and leader now? I think we could finish this season strong and make a charge next year, it's not like we are getting blown out every game.

I would much rather trade Berroa right now, I think he is worthless and he might get as much in return as Sweeney.

That's a fair question, and the reply is I don't know. I just know that Mike has a limited shelf life of what he will contribute over the next couple of years. I also know that it takes young players a couple of years to gell together. More than likely, we will have several new pieces to add to our puzzle in 2006 (Huber, maybe Pressley, Aldridge, spossibly Maeir or even Butler).

I think we could be a decent team in 2006, but I think we could be a very good team in 2007. Teahan, DeJesus and Buck will all be in their 3rd full season, our young pitchers should have worked out many of the kinks they are encountering now. The new acquistions in 2006 will have had a year to adjust. Most importantly, the new manager will have had some time to get used to the team and the young talent. Just a hunch, but I really think our year to make a charge is a couple years a way (2007) with all these young players.