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Old 05-05-2001, 04:44 PM  
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I am your best friend. I am a GOOD American.

I like big cars, big hooters, and big paychecks. I believe that the money I make belongs to me and my family, but I recognize that it is to my benefit if as many people as possible get fed, clothed, and get a good education, so I don’t mind having to pay taxes. I recognize that I live in a society that makes it possible for me to live so nicely, and I’m ok with giving back to that society.

I am in touch with my feelings. I know who I am. I’m not afraid of facing the truth, even when it is ugly. I don’t believe that anyone has ever died because of something that Ozzy Osbourne sang, though I recognize that children are impressionable, so I do my best to be a good role model for those who might look for me to be one. I don’t believe that owning a gun makes you a killer, though I have no problem with gun control. I think licensing handguns is a good idea that would hurt nobody but the lazy, and that if you think that licensing is the first step to confiscation, then you really don’t know what America is all about. Don’t tread on me with your ignorance.

I don’t think that being a minority makes you noble or victimized, but I recognize that this country was built in large part by slaves who paid the way for a lot of the rich families of this country. Like I said before, I’m not afraid of facing the truth, even when it is ugly. I realize that this land was stolen from the Indians who lived on it before us. I think it’s a shame when people marginalize the sacrifices that the American Indians gave up for this great country.

I believe that graduating from college is the best thing you can do for yourself, and I don’t care how you pay for it. I believe that anyone who really wants to graduate from college can… Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Don’t come crying to me because you trapped yourself in a factory job and bought a really cool car before you put a serious investment in yourself. But don’t worry, I pay taxes to help people like you if you did. And I’m more than happy to do so, sitting in my office with a view, and diplomas on the wall.

I believe that my daughter is just as smart as your son. She could probably kick his *** too, if she put her mind to it. And it will be over my dead body that you deny her of the same opportunities that your son should enjoy. This is America, and females are Americans too.

I am happy to see that President Bush is doing his weekly addresses in both English and Spanish. America is the land of the diverse, and if you can’t handle that, then you are in the wrong place. I'm against the weekly presidential radio address being in ebonics though.

I am my own hero. I don’t need to look to anyone but my God, myself, and my family for strength. I like watching television, but I’m not going to make fictional characters my heroes. You can pretend that you’re John Wayne if you want. My little son thinks that he’s a cowboy too. When he gets old enough, he’ll realize that there is no such thing as a cowboy anymore… Just farmers, and God bless them all.

I believe that every vote should count, and I’m not fooled by the results of this last election. I’ll accept it, but I believe the next time we should actually VOTE the president in. It was a tough situation, and I can see both sides. I’m not going to pretend that one side or the other was wrong or right, but I will say that the Supreme Court shouldn’t have acted so visibly biased. The solutions are out there if you bother to look for them in every instance, including this one.

You can be proud of yourself for being a BAD American if that’s what you are. I’ll choose to be proud of being a GOOD American, because that’s what I am.
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Old 05-06-2001, 04:48 PM   #76
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I read the article, Taco. I didn't know that 90% of the meth in this country came from Mexico. Something else for your to be proud of.

Sounds to me like just another reason to vastly strengthen the border guard.
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Old 05-06-2001, 04:51 PM   #77
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Soliday - If you want to bring up a second subject on errors regarding our nation and foreign policy: I will probably agree with a good portion of it.

However, I am focused on this task at the moment. You state that illegal aliens pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits. Please explain (in simple English so we can all follow along) how Consuelo Martinez and her five children (Pedro, Miguel, Maria, Anna, and Raoul) all pay more in taxes than they receive in health, welfare, and food stamp benefits.
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Old 05-06-2001, 04:53 PM   #78
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John - You don't want anyone starving. I agree, at least you are honest.

My solution is instead of giving them a paycheck every month for doing nothing is give them a meal and send them home.
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Old 05-06-2001, 04:53 PM   #79
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I read the article, Taco. I didn't know that 90% of the meth in this country came from Mexico. Something else for your to be proud of.

Sounds to me like just another reason to vastly strengthen the border guard.
There's no reaching you is there. It's because you are a flat out racist.

You can sit there all day long and talk about attacking the symptoms, but if you ignore the source, you are fighting the wrong battle. The problem doesn't lie with the Mexicans. It lies with the Americans, like it or not.
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Old 05-06-2001, 04:58 PM   #80
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And you wonder why the US pulled out of UNESCO?
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Old 05-06-2001, 05:01 PM   #81
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FYI - I am a white man born here in the good old USA. I paid more in taxes last year than you will make in the next ten years. I cashed in all of my stock options before the stock market tanked. I was only sticking up for the mexican people because I can pay them a lot less money to clean my house and mow my yard.
I know that we need to do something about the illegal immagrants but you don't have to go nazi on everything. Unless I find myself one day having to mow some illegal immigrants yard.
I am going to go back to just talking about the Chiefs. This is just a big waist of time. I guess talking about the Chiefs is a big waist of time also.
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Old 05-06-2001, 05:03 PM   #82
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The illegal aliens come from Mexico. That is the source. The drugs come from Mexico. That is the source.

Therefore, I AM ATTACKING THE SOURCE, you fucking idiot.

And this racist crap is getting old. I don't want my country overrun by hordes of people from any country who don't belong here. The fact that I want to protect what's mine from those who aren't entitled to it doesn't make me a racist.

And I don't like you not because you're a Mexican - I don't like you because you're hellbent on destroying my country and my way of life. The fact that you're an a$$hole might have something to do with it, too.

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Old 05-06-2001, 05:09 PM   #83
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Alan,

They were objective studies, and they've been duplicated by several organizations around the world, including the US gov't. It's pretty hard to manipulate things like prison population and infant mortality. But sure, it's from outside the US, so it must be wrong, eh?

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Old 05-06-2001, 05:12 PM   #84
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The illegal aliens come from Mexico. That is the source. The drugs come from Mexico. That is the source.
Therefore, I AM ATTACKING THE SOURCE, you fucking idiot.
WRONG! How can you go through years of American schooling and not know how the mechanics of supply and demand work?

The source of the problem is not the supply. It's the demand. The demand for drugs and the demand for cheap labor are the two chief problems. Address those problems, and you are addressing the source of the problem.

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And this racist crap is getting old.
I agree. I wish that you would stop being so racist.

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I don't want my country overrun by hordes of people from any country who don't belong here.
Tell that to the Native Americans you ignorant a55hole.


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I don't like you because you're a Mexican
Racist jerk. By the way, I'm an American.

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I don't like you because you're hellbent on destroying my country and my way of life.
I am hellbent on making it tough for rascist to exist in this great land. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. It is going to get harder and harder for people like you to exist in America without having to give up some core beliefs like your race is the master race, and that mexicans are the source of all of America's problems.
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Old 05-06-2001, 05:15 PM   #85
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Ah, how nice. Another rich liberal bragging about how big his paycheck is. So let me get this straight - you think something should be done about illegal immigration UNLESS it means the people who clean your house would be deported, because... what? Because you're too cheap to hire good help or too lazy to clean up after yourself?

Okay, rich liberal. Since Taco's buying my car, why don't you pay off my new house? Again, I'm not entitled to it, but what the hell - I want it, so give it to me. That's the liberal way, isn't it? And I promise with the money I save from not having a mortgage payment I'll hire a couple of non-English speaking illegal immigrants to clean my toilets and wash my dishes. That should make you very happy.
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Old 05-06-2001, 05:19 PM   #86
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frazod,

You may need to make an ammendment to your signature line to include "Mexicans".

What happens if the Broncos or Rams have Mexicans on their rosters?
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Old 05-06-2001, 05:25 PM   #87
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CLARIFICATION: I left the word "NOT" out of a sentence. It should have read "I don't like you NOT because you're a Mexican, but because you're hellbent on..." This was a typo. I did not mean it as written and apologize for the implication I made, which is obviously very offensive. I DID NOT IT THE WAY IT WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN, and have corrected my post.

For that (and that alone), I apologize.

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Old 05-06-2001, 05:29 PM   #88
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Now you've taken to quoting me out of context. You know damn well what I meant when I said that, you pr!ck. If you're so convinced I'm a racist, trying explaining it to the many friends I have who just happen to be black, hispanic, jewish or gay. They'll tell you to go fuck yourself. And I don't like giving a laundry list of ethnic groups like that - these people aren't my "black" friends, or "gay" friends - they're just my friends. Its people like you that insist on labelling everything.

I don't know what you are talking about. Going back and re-reading it, I can see where you might think I took you out of context... But your other posts snips it all back into the context that you hate Mexicans, so I don't know what to think. Either way, you still ignored most of the points I made, including the points about the American Indians who sacrificed their way of life so racist pricks like you can enjoy hating them for it.
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Old 05-06-2001, 05:46 PM   #89
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JL80,

Could you provide some source for your statement on the differentiation between Asian and other legal and "illegal" immigrants, and their cost to social services? The Urban Institute web site makes this point:

The Urban Institute has concluded that "immigrants actually generate significantly more in taxes
paid than they cost in services." This is because undocumented workers, despite their ineligibility for
most federal benefits, frequently have Social Security and income taxes withheld from their paychecks. In
fact, immigrants pay substantially more in taxes every year than they receive in welfare benefits.

As a result, one commentator has pointed out, "a senior citizen on Social Security who lives in rural
Kentucky is indirectly being subsidized by an immigrant who washes dishes in a chic restaurant in Santa
Monica." Another commentator recently proposed that the best solution to the Social Security crisis
caused by the aging of the baby boomers is to encourage immigration in order to create "instant adults"
who will begin working immediately and paying into the Social Security system.



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Old 05-06-2001, 05:49 PM   #90
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Taco J,

I'm not even going to tell you which side of this opinion that I agree with:

"The source of the problem is not the supply. It's the demand."

But regardless of whether or not that is accurate, it could not be more contradictory with you opinion about gun control...If supply is not the problem then you original comments about gun supply restriction goes completely against your above listed comment.
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