I am a GOOD American - Page 12

05-05-2001, 04:44 PM

I am your best friend. I am a GOOD American.

I like big cars, big hooters, and big paychecks. I believe that the money I make belongs to me and my family, but I recognize that it is to my benefit if as many people as possible get fed, clothed, and get a good education, so I don’t mind having to pay taxes. I recognize that I live in a society that makes it possible for me to live so nicely, and I’m ok with giving back to that society.

I am in touch with my feelings. I know who I am. I’m not afraid of facing the truth, even when it is ugly. I don’t believe that anyone has ever died because of something that Ozzy Osbourne sang, though I recognize that children are impressionable, so I do my best to be a good role model for those who might look for me to be one. I don’t believe that owning a gun makes you a killer, though I have no problem with gun control. I think licensing handguns is a good idea that would hurt nobody but the lazy, and that if you think that licensing is the first step to confiscation, then you really don’t know what America is all about. Don’t tread on me with your ignorance.

I don’t think that being a minority makes you noble or victimized, but I recognize that this country was built in large part by slaves who paid the way for a lot of the rich families of this country. Like I said before, I’m not afraid of facing the truth, even when it is ugly. I realize that this land was stolen from the Indians who lived on it before us. I think it’s a shame when people marginalize the sacrifices that the American Indians gave up for this great country.

I believe that graduating from college is the best thing you can do for yourself, and I don’t care how you pay for it. I believe that anyone who really wants to graduate from college can… Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Don’t come crying to me because you trapped yourself in a factory job and bought a really cool car before you put a serious investment in yourself. But don’t worry, I pay taxes to help people like you if you did. And I’m more than happy to do so, sitting in my office with a view, and diplomas on the wall.

I believe that my daughter is just as smart as your son. She could probably kick his *** too, if she put her mind to it. And it will be over my dead body that you deny her of the same opportunities that your son should enjoy. This is America, and females are Americans too.

I am happy to see that President Bush is doing his weekly addresses in both English and Spanish. America is the land of the diverse, and if you can’t handle that, then you are in the wrong place. I'm against the weekly presidential radio address being in ebonics though.

I am my own hero. I don’t need to look to anyone but my God, myself, and my family for strength. I like watching television, but I’m not going to make fictional characters my heroes. You can pretend that you’re John Wayne if you want. My little son thinks that he’s a cowboy too. When he gets old enough, he’ll realize that there is no such thing as a cowboy anymore… Just farmers, and God bless them all.

I believe that every vote should count, and I’m not fooled by the results of this last election. I’ll accept it, but I believe the next time we should actually VOTE the president in. It was a tough situation, and I can see both sides. I’m not going to pretend that one side or the other was wrong or right, but I will say that the Supreme Court shouldn’t have acted so visibly biased. The solutions are out there if you bother to look for them in every instance, including this one.

You can be proud of yourself for being a BAD American if that’s what you are. I’ll choose to be proud of being a GOOD American, because that’s what I am.

Frazod · 05-07-2001, 05:51 PM

I'm back. Just reviewed the new stuff. What a read.

Lapdog, thanks for defending me in my absence. I particularly enjoyed your dissection of Taco Boy's bullshit. Very amusing. Personally, I didn't feel it was necessary to point out that Taco is a racist - his venomous hatred of white Americans has permeated every single post. He has very clearly exposed himself for what he is. I still note that he has never answered my question effectively - why can't Mexicans fix their own country? He just pushes the blame off on us evil white Americans, then wraps himself in indignant rage when any of us even suggest that his darling illegal immigrants cause problems for us. Typical, and tiresome, liberal double-standard crap. I actually kind of pity him.

05-07-2001, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frazod
his venomous hatred of white Americans has permeated every single post.

Talk about a reach. Me? Racist against Whites? You have got to be kidding me. If you saw me, you'd think your statement is pretty stupid. I fit the profile of a white guy to a tee. Talk about a ridiculous statement.

As for the rest of your post... Who said America is white? Clearly it's not. I don't blame "White" America for anything. There is no such thing as "White" America...

But that comment gives some real insight as to how you view this country.

05-07-2001, 06:16 PM

Oh yeah...

I've given you your answers. You just ignored them.

But you haven't told us anything about what would happen to the economy (as far as farming is concerned) is there were absolutely no illegal aliens in America.

Also, point out to me one post where I said that Illegal Aliens don't pose a problem. Sure they do. But I've maintained that you should concentrate your efforts on attacking the problems, not the symptoms. You just can't see the forest through the trees.

05-07-2001, 06:17 PM

What I'd give to be wholly informed like you obviously elevated individuals...

(sarcasm off)

Frazod · 05-07-2001, 06:23 PM

There you go again. I never said "White America." I said "White Americans." There are many different types of Americans, and some of us happen to be white. I see your facts are as clear as ever.

And as I've said before, I have no problem with those illegals who come over, work the fields, and go back, as long as they're carefully monitored. Of course, we have enough deadbeats that are here already (of all races) that would probably do the job effectively if we kicked them off the dole and told them here's a job - take it or leave it, but you won't get anymore free money.

And again, you haven't given me an answer on my question - you've simply skirted the issue. You've obviously done this because you have no answer. And when I pin you down on it, you call me a racist. Your crap is getting very, very old.

Frazod · 05-07-2001, 06:27 PM

And again, if people are illegally entering this country, being a burden to our society, dealing drugs and perpetrating other crimes, and we STOP THEM FROM COMING HERE, we are attacking the source, and the problem.

You're really logic-challenged, aren't you? By the way, 2 + 2 = 4. That one's probably stumped you as well.

Rick Stephens · 05-07-2001, 06:32 PM

Frazod,

Maybe we need a DMZ along the border that would attack the problem and the source.

Frazod · 05-07-2001, 06:37 PM

We'd better not go there, Rick. Certain people might confuse upholding our laws and defending our country's borders with being murdering racists.

Oxford · 05-07-2001, 08:06 PM

Heaven forbid confusing upholding the laws with justice. Every liberal knows that the laws were meant to protect the powerful (because their judges legislated them from the bench)

Chiefs Pantalones · 05-07-2001, 10:09 PM

Now that I think about it, Taco Johns' tacos aren't that good. They have no taste to them.

CG

couldn't resist

no offense to Taco John the person, I just thought of food when I looked at your name.

Garcia Bronco · 05-07-2001, 10:23 PM

here is where things are going down

Garcia Bronco · 05-07-2001, 10:25 PM

Lurker? I forgot that I registered here.

**sd4chiefs** · 05-07-2001, 10:39 PM

We could solve two problems if we built some giant hamster wheals in Mexico and the illegals could run around in them and produce electricity for California. We could put a movie screen if front of it with a picture of the border.

The_Grand_Illusion · 05-07-2001, 10:42 PM

Hey Frazod,

I haven't seen anything that you wrote as racist. I understand many things that you and others wrote especially protecting our borders. I'm one of the small percentage of minorities that don't march in step with the liberals and the DNC. I believe in personal responsibility for everyone. In this day and age, the race card should have died out with disco. Unfortunately liberals keep rehashing it in order to control the masses of minorities and other groups. Anyone who uses the race card only seeks to divide, IMHO.

"Why can't Mexicans fix their own country?"

All I can say there is Mexico has been under varying forms of socialism for many years. Not many opportunities for them in that situation. You can't blame them for trying to come here. Opportunities is what made this country great. Opportunity gave Taco John the chance to get a diploma and earn a big fat paycheck. We should never close our borders for LEGAL immigration. As for Mexico, there is no easy solution. A chance to prosper in their own country would stem the tide of illegal immigration here. Change in Mexico will have to come from within. We can help where we can but throwing money at the problem will only end up in corrupt hands.

TGI

My 2 pesos.

Frazod · 05-07-2001, 10:56 PM

You have a very refreshing attitude, GI. And I appreciate someone finally stepping up and identifying some of Mexico's internal problems (Taco's a bit short in the sack department when it comes to the truth).

Well, I'm outta here - I've kind of taken the night off - getting tired of endlessly staring at a computer monitor at home and at work. Talk to you all tomorrow.

05-05-2001, 04:44 PM
Taco John Guest Casino cash: $	I am your best friend. I am a GOOD American. I like big cars, big hooters, and big paychecks. I believe that the money I make belongs to me and my family, but I recognize that it is to my benefit if as many people as possible get fed, clothed, and get a good education, so I don’t mind having to pay taxes. I recognize that I live in a society that makes it possible for me to live so nicely, and I’m ok with giving back to that society. I am in touch with my feelings. I know who I am. I’m not afraid of facing the truth, even when it is ugly. I don’t believe that anyone has ever died because of something that Ozzy Osbourne sang, though I recognize that children are impressionable, so I do my best to be a good role model for those who might look for me to be one. I don’t believe that owning a gun makes you a killer, though I have no problem with gun control. I think licensing handguns is a good idea that would hurt nobody but the lazy, and that if you think that licensing is the first step to confiscation, then you really don’t know what America is all about. Don’t tread on me with your ignorance. I don’t think that being a minority makes you noble or victimized, but I recognize that this country was built in large part by slaves who paid the way for a lot of the rich families of this country. Like I said before, I’m not afraid of facing the truth, even when it is ugly. I realize that this land was stolen from the Indians who lived on it before us. I think it’s a shame when people marginalize the sacrifices that the American Indians gave up for this great country. I believe that graduating from college is the best thing you can do for yourself, and I don’t care how you pay for it. I believe that anyone who really wants to graduate from college can… Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Don’t come crying to me because you trapped yourself in a factory job and bought a really cool car before you put a serious investment in yourself. But don’t worry, I pay taxes to help people like you if you did. And I’m more than happy to do so, sitting in my office with a view, and diplomas on the wall. I believe that my daughter is just as smart as your son. She could probably kick his *** too, if she put her mind to it. And it will be over my dead body that you deny her of the same opportunities that your son should enjoy. This is America, and females are Americans too. I am happy to see that President Bush is doing his weekly addresses in both English and Spanish. America is the land of the diverse, and if you can’t handle that, then you are in the wrong place. I'm against the weekly presidential radio address being in ebonics though. I am my own hero. I don’t need to look to anyone but my God, myself, and my family for strength. I like watching television, but I’m not going to make fictional characters my heroes. You can pretend that you’re John Wayne if you want. My little son thinks that he’s a cowboy too. When he gets old enough, he’ll realize that there is no such thing as a cowboy anymore… Just farmers, and God bless them all. I believe that every vote should count, and I’m not fooled by the results of this last election. I’ll accept it, but I believe the next time we should actually VOTE the president in. It was a tough situation, and I can see both sides. I’m not going to pretend that one side or the other was wrong or right, but I will say that the Supreme Court shouldn’t have acted so visibly biased. The solutions are out there if you bother to look for them in every instance, including this one. You can be proud of yourself for being a BAD American if that’s what you are. I’ll choose to be proud of being a GOOD American, because that’s what I am.
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05-07-2001, 05:51 PM	#166
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-846615	I'm back. Just reviewed the new stuff. What a read. Lapdog, thanks for defending me in my absence. I particularly enjoyed your dissection of Taco Boy's bullshit. Very amusing. Personally, I didn't feel it was necessary to point out that Taco is a racist - his venomous hatred of white Americans has permeated every single post. He has very clearly exposed himself for what he is. I still note that he has never answered my question effectively - why can't Mexicans fix their own country? He just pushes the blame off on us evil white Americans, then wraps himself in indignant rage when any of us even suggest that his darling illegal immigrants cause problems for us. Typical, and tiresome, liberal double-standard crap. I actually kind of pity him.
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05-07-2001, 06:16 PM	#168
Taco John Guest Casino cash: $	Oh yeah... I've given you your answers. You just ignored them. But you haven't told us anything about what would happen to the economy (as far as farming is concerned) is there were absolutely no illegal aliens in America. Also, point out to me one post where I said that Illegal Aliens don't pose a problem. Sure they do. But I've maintained that you should concentrate your efforts on attacking the problems, not the symptoms. You just can't see the forest through the trees.
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05-07-2001, 06:17 PM	#169
Taco John Guest Casino cash: $	What I'd give to be wholly informed like you obviously elevated individuals... (sarcasm off)
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05-07-2001, 06:23 PM	#170
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-846615	There you go again. I never said "White America." I said "White Americans." There are many different types of Americans, and some of us happen to be white. I see your facts are as clear as ever. And as I've said before, I have no problem with those illegals who come over, work the fields, and go back, as long as they're carefully monitored. Of course, we have enough deadbeats that are here already (of all races) that would probably do the job effectively if we kicked them off the dole and told them here's a job - take it or leave it, but you won't get anymore free money. And again, you haven't given me an answer on my question - you've simply skirted the issue. You've obviously done this because you have no answer. And when I pin you down on it, you call me a racist. Your crap is getting very, very old.
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05-07-2001, 06:27 PM	#171
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-846615	And again, if people are illegally entering this country, being a burden to our society, dealing drugs and perpetrating other crimes, and we STOP THEM FROM COMING HERE, we are attacking the source, and the problem. You're really logic-challenged, aren't you? By the way, 2 + 2 = 4. That one's probably stumped you as well.
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05-07-2001, 06:32 PM	#172
Rick Stephens #1 Chiefs Collector Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Garden Grove, California Casino cash: $10004900	Frazod, Maybe we need a DMZ along the border that would attack the problem and the source. Last edited by Rick Stephens; 05-07-2001 at 06:35 PM..
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05-07-2001, 06:37 PM	#173
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-846615	We'd better not go there, Rick. Certain people might confuse upholding our laws and defending our country's borders with being murdering racists. Last edited by Frazod; 05-07-2001 at 06:39 PM..
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05-07-2001, 08:06 PM	#174
Oxford Regular Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Springfield,MO Casino cash: $9605535	Heaven forbid confusing upholding the laws with justice. Every liberal knows that the laws were meant to protect the powerful (because their judges legislated them from the bench) __________________ I summon the IRON , Cookin up a whoopin for YOU YOU YOU!
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05-07-2001, 10:09 PM	#175
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $6868717	Now that I think about it, Taco Johns' tacos aren't that good. They have no taste to them. CG couldn't resist no offense to Taco John the person, I just thought of food when I looked at your name. __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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05-07-2001, 10:23 PM	#176
Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $1633136	here is where things are going down
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05-07-2001, 10:25 PM	#177
Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $1633136	Lurker? I forgot that I registered here.
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05-07-2001, 10:39 PM	#178
sd4chiefs error 404 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bizarro World Casino cash: $8650445	We could solve two problems if we built some giant hamster wheals in Mexico and the illegals could run around in them and produce electricity for California. We could put a movie screen if front of it with a picture of the border.
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05-07-2001, 10:42 PM	#179
The_Grand_Illusion Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Ad Astra Per Aspera Casino cash: $10004900	Hey Frazod, I haven't seen anything that you wrote as racist. I understand many things that you and others wrote especially protecting our borders. I'm one of the small percentage of minorities that don't march in step with the liberals and the DNC. I believe in personal responsibility for everyone. In this day and age, the race card should have died out with disco. Unfortunately liberals keep rehashing it in order to control the masses of minorities and other groups. Anyone who uses the race card only seeks to divide, IMHO. "Why can't Mexicans fix their own country?" All I can say there is Mexico has been under varying forms of socialism for many years. Not many opportunities for them in that situation. You can't blame them for trying to come here. Opportunities is what made this country great. Opportunity gave Taco John the chance to get a diploma and earn a big fat paycheck. We should never close our borders for LEGAL immigration. As for Mexico, there is no easy solution. A chance to prosper in their own country would stem the tide of illegal immigration here. Change in Mexico will have to come from within. We can help where we can but throwing money at the problem will only end up in corrupt hands. TGI My 2 pesos.
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05-07-2001, 10:56 PM	#180
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-846615	You have a very refreshing attitude, GI. And I appreciate someone finally stepping up and identifying some of Mexico's internal problems (Taco's a bit short in the sack department when it comes to the truth). Well, I'm outta here - I've kind of taken the night off - getting tired of endlessly staring at a computer monitor at home and at work. Talk to you all tomorrow.
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