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Old 10-12-2005, 10:13 PM   #1
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The Creative unit has every single one of those accessories allowing you to connect to your car streo or anything you want. No difference there.
So Bose, Pioneer, Kenwood, Alpine, BMW, Honda, VW and every other stereo maker/car company has products built for the Creative players? Umm... nope.

There are hundreds of companies making products specifically for the iPod. If I want a new case for my iPod, I have massive amounts to choose from. Same with boom boxes or any other accessory that I would be interested in because they have 75% of the market.
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:17 PM   #2
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So Bose, Pioneer, Kenwood, Alpine, BMW, Honda, VW and every other stereo maker/car company has products built for the Creative players? Umm... nope.

There are hundreds of companies making products specifically for the iPod. If I want a new case for my iPod, I have massive amounts to choose from. Same with boom boxes or any other accessory that I would be interested in because they have 75% of the market.
Not the point. Pretty much any portable MP3 player you buy these days is capable of utilizing an FM brodcaster, just like the iPod.

iPod is the most recognized name in the market; it does not have the market cornered however. As a matter of fact, you can buy comparable units for far less $... and have the same functionality.

Of course, you're one who partakes of the Apple kool aid, so I'm sure my heretical take falls on deaf ears.
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:37 PM   #3
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Not the point. Pretty much any portable MP3 player you buy these days is capable of utilizing an FM brodcaster, just like the iPod.

iPod is the most recognized name in the market; it does not have the market cornered however. As a matter of fact, you can buy comparable units for far less $... and have the same functionality.

Of course, you're one who partakes of the Apple kool aid, so I'm sure my heretical take falls on deaf ears.
I think you are missing the point.

Look at boom boxes for example. Bose, Altec Lansing, Klipsh, etc., all have boom boxes for the iPod. Options at any price point. How many companies have boom boxes for the Creative players? It's nice to be able to choose from a wide variety of products. Do you not agree?

Everyone and their brother is building products for the iPod. Why? Because it has become the standard. The iPod is about the complete experience. You may discount that, but millions of people agree. Why has the iPod become a HUGE business? Not because us Apple loving zealots all went out and bought one. Apple sold almost 6.5 million iPods the last QUARTER. They are obviously doing something right.
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:43 PM   #4
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Look at boom boxes for example. Bose, Altec Lansing, Klipsh, etc., all have boom boxes for the iPod. Options at any price point. How many companies have boom boxes for the Creative players? It's nice to be able to choose from a wide variety of products. Do you not agree?
Yeah, I think it's very cool... however the other MP3 player manufacturers are doing the same thing - only cheaper.

Apple needs to pay close attention to the market, or they'll get trounced (again).
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:44 PM   #5
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Yeah, I think it's very cool... however the other MP3 player manufacturers are doing the same thing - only cheaper.
examples?
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:48 PM   #6
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examples?
Examples? Are you serious? Have you not looked at the market lately?

Oops, forgot, Mac zealot. Okay, go to www.pricewatch.com & click on MP3 players. You'll see a large list of differing platforms and maufacturers to choose from.
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:11 PM   #7
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Examples? Are you serious? Have you not looked at the market lately?

Oops, forgot, Mac zealot. Okay, go to www.pricewatch.com & click on MP3 players. You'll see a large list of differing platforms and maufacturers to choose from.
And none offer all the options an iPod does.
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:14 PM   #8
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Examples? Are you serious? Have you not looked at the market lately?

Oops, forgot, Mac zealot. Okay, go to www.pricewatch.com & click on MP3 players. You'll see a large list of differing platforms and maufacturers to choose from.
Ok. I looked through the MP3 accessories area and found a few FM transmitters (who really wants those anyway? the quality is horrible) and a case and a charger for an iRiver.

Is that the huge market that I missed? It must be my zealotness clouding the view
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:47 PM   #9
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Most of the nano's will prolley be recalled here, customers are pissed on how easy they scratch. We are talking a fingernail will ruin a nano, that is how soft the material they made them with are... They look great and have a color screen but come on there are tons of other mp3 players that are better.. That olympus mp3/video/camera is great, they were on sale for 150 after rebate a few weeks ago...
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:54 PM   #10
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Most of the nano's will prolley be recalled here, customers are pissed on how easy they scratch. We are talking a fingernail will ruin a nano, that is how soft the material they made them with are... They look great and have a color screen but come on there are tons of other mp3 players that are better.. That olympus mp3/video/camera is great, they were on sale for 150 after rebate a few weeks ago...
I have a nano and I can run my fingernail on it all day and it won't scratch. From what I understand, it is the same material that iPods have always been cast in, but the black material makes scratches much more obvious.

I use mine a lot and it has a few scratches, but not bad at all. I don't even carry it in a case. I do plan to buy one to keep it from scratching more.
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:56 PM   #11
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I have a nano and I can run my fingernail on it all day and it won't scratch. From what I understand, it is the same material that iPods have always been cast in, but the black material makes scratches much more obvious.

I use mine a lot and it has a few scratches, but not bad at all. I don't even carry it in a case. I do plan to buy one to keep it from scratching more.

Thats good for you, because at my work since those things released we have had about 13 returned, I get yelled at for some reason... Did you buy the 2 or 4gig model???
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:44 PM   #12
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I think you are missing the point.

Look at boom boxes for example. Bose, Altec Lansing, Klipsh, etc., all have boom boxes for the iPod. Options at any price point. How many companies have boom boxes for the Creative players? It's nice to be able to choose from a wide variety of products. Do you not agree?

Everyone and their brother is building products for the iPod. Why? Because it has become the standard. The iPod is about the complete experience. You may discount that, but millions of people agree. Why has the iPod become a HUGE business? Not because us Apple loving zealots all went out and bought one. Apple sold almost 6.5 million iPods the last QUARTER. They are obviously doing something right.


I think you have to with what works for you and pay for what you want. $50 did me up fine.
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:47 PM   #13
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I think you have to with what works for you and pay for what you want. $50 did me up fine.
I completely agree. Some aren't too picky
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