MIZZOU ST

[joeball]

Hey about those MISSOURI STATE Bears!!! The ESPN men's basketball front page has them as "Mizzou ST". Man, bet you mizzou fans hate to see that. Seriously, they have a very good team this year. It IS a shame that little mizzou won't play the BEARS unless they are forced too. Well while da Bears are cuttin some net in the Big Dance maybe, just maybe little mizzou can grope for an nit bid.
HA ole mizzou had it coming, fighting the name change and doing everything it can to avoid playing little ole sw missouri state in the day!!!!!

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by joeball

The ESPN men's basketball front page has them as "Mizzou ST". Man, bet you mizzou fans hate to see that.

No, not really.

[|Zach|]

Eh, I don't think Mizzou cares that much. They also would have been crazy not to fight that name change. Although, now I remember a lot of folks made a big deal at MU about not calling it Mizzou St. That was one of their big sticking points...

I thought they had worked that out with media outlets. Maybe not.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Northern Iowa>SMS

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Northern Iowa>SMS

Even after beating them in their own house? Cool.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by ZachKC

Even after beating them in their own house? Cool.

chit Pitt...........another Planet argument not clouded by the facts.

Fact: Mizzou State went into Northern Iowa and won in their recent meeting.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

chit Pitt...........another Planet argument not clouded by the facts.

Fact: Mizzou State went into Northern Iowa and won in their recent meeting.

Facts? What kind of reeruned are you?

Missouri Valley
Team Conf. W-L Tot. W-L
Wichita St. 12-4 21-7
Northern Iowa 11-5 22-6
Creighton 11-5 18-7
Southern Ill. 11-5 18-9
Missouri St. 10-6 18-7
Bradley 9-7 16-9
Drake 5-11 12-16
Indiana St. 4-12 12-13
Illinois St. 4-12 9-16
Evansville 3-13 7-18

As of right now, UNI>SMS. That could change, but UNI has been a "lock" for the big tourney for a while. SMS has been on the "bubble," moving towards stronger consideration.

[joeball]

Well congrats to N. Iowa. Their 2x OT win over Bucknell is sure gonna help Mizzou St. with the RPI (every little bit helps). The talking head will probably be talking MSU into the Big Dance for sure now!

[Oxford]

Originally Posted by ZachKC

Eh, I don't think Mizzou cares that much.

Wrong. Mike Alden (during the football season) said that the term Mizzou is copyrighted and they did not want to be associated with a I-AA football program.

Of course, they won't play the the I-A basketball program. Makes for good rivalry though, both sides can say the other one is scared of them.

[tk13]

Actually I'm waiting to see somebody in the Mo. Valley get shafted for a .500ish team from the Big 12 or Pac 10 for the tournament, which will be too bad. There are those top 4 teams that are legitimate tournament teams, Mo. State is on the bubble of breaking in there, Bradley really could be good enough to throw a wrench in the conference tourney and go deep, and even Indiana State down there has great wins over Indiana, Northern Iowa, and @ SIU, they're like 12-3 when their leading scorer has been healthy, they could be a dangerous lower seed.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Facts? What kind of reeruned are you?

name calling is the first resort of a lame argument.

I think that if two teams meet on the basketball court and the Bears beat NI that means that the Bears are better than NI.

[duncan_idaho]

Missouri has every right to defend the 'Mizzou' moniker; it is a trademarked nickname that appears on a huge portion of Tigers apparel. Oh, and it's the name of the freakin' arena.

If I were in the administration, I'd pitch a fit if I saw anyone calling SMS 'Mizzou State.'

Also, calling SMS that makes no sense; the state is not referred to as Mizzou; the only thing referred to by that name is the university SMS is attempting to compete with.

If I was the AD at MU, no matter how good—or bad—the basketball team is, I'd never schedule a game against a in-state rival in the same classification (i.e., UMKC, SLU, SMS)... there's nothing to gain and everything to lose in that situation.

It always will be SMS to me... and I can't wait to that POS Blunt go down in flames in ’08...

[tk13]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

If I was the AD at MU, no matter how good—or bad—the basketball team is, I'd never schedule a game against a in-state rival in the same classification (i.e., UMKC, SLU, SMS)... there's nothing to gain and everything to lose in that situation.

Chicken.

[duncan_idaho]

tk,
There's nothing to be gained from scheduluing an in-state rival from an inferior conference. More times than not, it will hurt your RPI, and that game means far more to a SLU or SMS than it does to MU. It's a trap game... and all it can do is hurt your in-state recruiting, especially in St. Louis.

It's not a matter of intestinal fortitude... it's a matter of being logical.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

name calling is the first resort of a lame argument.

I think that if two teams meet on the basketball court and the Bears beat NI that means that the Bears are better than NI.

So, what? K-State also beat Kansas in AFH. However, the only way you could claim that K-State is better than KU right now, is if you were utterly ignorant, or if you were smoking crack.

Look long enough and youll probably find Missouri St, UNI, and a 3rd team wrapped up in a paper-rock-scissors paradox, what then?

On any one day anybody has a chance against anybody else, but one game doesnt prove that one team is better than the other, you have to look at the body of work, and UNI is a better team than Missouri St., even when including their head-to-head match into consideration.