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Grant "amnesty" to illegals who've been here at least 2 full years. (time to be negotiated) 8 6.67%
Streamline the naturalization process for current illegals, expediting their road toward citizenship. 13 10.83%
Allow illegals now here to be naturalized, eventually; but crack down on "new" illegals 15 12.50%
Grant eventual citizenship to illegals, but after a waiting period, a symbolic fine, and strict naturalization requirements. 16 13.33%
Crackdown harshly on businesses that are lazy, or who knowingly hire illegals. 57 47.50%
Build a 700 mile fence/wall to be heavily fortified and guarded to stop future illegals. 38 31.67%
Illegals should face a significant fine, and repayment of any back taxes....before being considered for citizenship. 28 23.33%
Illegals here for less than two years should be deported. 23 19.17%
Illegals here from 2-7 years, would be evaluated on a case-by-case basis; good "citizens" could be naturalized, but some would be deported. 24 20.00%
Illegals here for at least 8 years, could apply for expedited citizenship if they've been law-adiding (generally) and held jobs consistently. 24 20.00%
Deport only those illegals who've become problems and have not consistently maintained employment. 20 16.67%
Deport ALL, or nearly all, who entered the country illegally. 55 45.83%
Increase border patrol SUBSTANTIALLY, possibly including use of the armed forces as necessary. 58 48.33%
Utilize armed forces as a routine part of daily border patrol. 38 31.67%
Do whatever GAZ says.... 12 10.00%
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Old 04-11-2006, 02:12 PM   #1
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THIS makes a LOT of sense, in my mind.

Anyone besides jspchief wanna take on Donger, or challenge the basic gist here? Are we missing something?
We don't have a lot of legal workers to spare right now with the low unemployment rate. But if we increase legal immigration to replace the decreased illegal worker pool (which would hopefully result from a more secure border), the impact should be economically acceptable.
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Old 04-11-2006, 02:20 PM   #2
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We don't have a lot of legal workers to spare right now with the low unemployment rate. But if we increase legal immigration to replace the decreased illegal worker pool (which would hopefully result from a more secure border), the impact should be economically acceptable.
Then we should move quickly make them legal, or at a minimum "guest workers"....right now--instead of dissin' them.

I think Donger is right. I think a marginal increase in pay, coupled with the fact there are enough workers who'd be willing to take on second jobs or part-time jobs....that much of the loss could be absorbed, over the long run.
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Old 04-11-2006, 02:31 PM   #3
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