Illegal Immigration: What should we do?

Mr. Kotter · 04-12-2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

I usually read the Cato Institute but it is Libertarian ( I have a libertarian streak but I am not a pure libertarian). Libertarians do not believe in the idea of having borders at all. They'd just as soon do away with them. Sorry, but I don't go for that....I believe in nation states and national sovereignty.

Seems to me that there are contrary facts on these numbers. Must be each side is using them selectively.

So let's say the numbers back the amnesty folks up....I still think forgiving this problem with leniency just encourages it even more. It encourages a disrespect for another nation's laws.Globaloney! What I don't get with the libertarians, even the right-libertarians, is that they also claim to support the idea of "rule of law." That's not supporting "rule of law"...it's rewarding lawlessness. Never a good thing...imo.

I'm not at all for easy or complete amnesty. And I agree, if they've broken the law....there should be consequences. But with 11-12 million already here, what do we do....? Deport them all? Wow; that seems expensive and harsh. Build a fence and guard it closely? Maybe; but that's gonna be very expensive to maintain, and it may not even really work. Drop the hammer on businesses who hire illegals? Lots of people seem opposed to that, and it would drive up inflation in some sectors in some areas....although the extent is really hard to predict?

So what do we do?

I agree about rule of law....but maybe it's the law that needs to be looked at closely and changed to accomodate the reality of the situation? As for those who've already broken the law.....how about some kind of plea bargain of sorts?

View Poll Results: What should we do? (Check ALL that apply)
Grant "amnesty" to illegals who've been here at least 2 full years. (time to be negotiated)	8	6.67%
Streamline the naturalization process for current illegals, expediting their road toward citizenship.	13	10.83%
Allow illegals now here to be naturalized, eventually; but crack down on "new" illegals	15	12.50%
Grant eventual citizenship to illegals, but after a waiting period, a symbolic fine, and strict naturalization requirements.	16	13.33%
Crackdown harshly on businesses that are lazy, or who knowingly hire illegals.	57	47.50%
Build a 700 mile fence/wall to be heavily fortified and guarded to stop future illegals.	38	31.67%
Illegals should face a significant fine, and repayment of any back taxes....before being considered for citizenship.	28	23.33%
Illegals here for less than two years should be deported.	23	19.17%
Illegals here from 2-7 years, would be evaluated on a case-by-case basis; good "citizens" could be naturalized, but some would be deported.	24	20.00%
Illegals here for at least 8 years, could apply for expedited citizenship if they've been law-adiding (generally) and held jobs consistently.	24	20.00%
Deport only those illegals who've become problems and have not consistently maintained employment.	20	16.67%
Deport ALL, or nearly all, who entered the country illegally.	55	45.83%
Increase border patrol SUBSTANTIALLY, possibly including use of the armed forces as necessary.	58	48.33%
Utilize armed forces as a routine part of daily border patrol.	38	31.67%
Do whatever GAZ says....	12	10.00%
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