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Old 05-10-2006, 08:04 AM  
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Old 05-10-2006, 09:43 AM   #16
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Considering he was a 2nd round pick, Pollard better be more than just a special teams contributor.
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Old 05-10-2006, 09:55 AM   #17
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Old 05-10-2006, 10:01 AM   #18
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Old 05-10-2006, 10:02 AM   #19
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I'm holding Pollard to the standards that a normal 2nd round pick would be held to, not some dumb standard that Peterson is probably going to hold him to which is a "just make sure you are better than Eddie Freeman"-type standard
One of the reasons the Pollard drafting confused me is that even if he comes in and plays well it might still not be enough to unseat our starting safeties, since they are all basically the same of type of player.

On the other hand a guy like Ko Simpson or Pat Watkins are more players in the free safety mold. They bring something new to the table, and it seems like one of them would have been a better fit along side one of our vets.
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Old 05-10-2006, 10:51 AM   #20
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Old 05-10-2006, 11:43 AM   #23
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I'm holding Pollard to the standards that a normal 2nd round pick would be held to, not some dumb standard that Peterson is probably going to hold him to which is a "just make sure you are better than Eddie Freeman"-type standard
What standard is that? Does this standard you've set take common sense into consideration?

Why don't you list all the rookie second rounders from last year that made an impact beyond special teams. I mean, obviously if Peterson's way is so much more jacked up than the rest of the league, you'll find plenty of second round starters from last year's draft. Probably all of them except the Chiefs' pick.
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What standard is that? Does this standard you've set take common sense into consideration?

Why don't you list all the rookie second rounders from last year that made an impact beyond special teams. I mean, obviously if Peterson's way is so much more jacked up than the rest of the league, you'll find plenty of second round starters from last year's draft.Probably all of them except the Chiefs' pick.
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Shaun Cody DT Detroit
Stanford Rouit CB Oakland
Mark Bradley WR Chicago
Josh Bullocks S New Orleans
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Darrent Williams CB Denver
Justin Miller CB Jets
Terrence Murphy WR Green Bay
Jonathon Babineaux DT Atlanta
Kelvin Hayden CB Pitt
Matt McCoy OLB Philasmelphia
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Now take a look at the stats of those guys. How many of them didn't start a single game? How many didn't even play in a portion of games? How many only played STs?

I don't have a problem with expecting something from your 2nd round pick, but the reality is a lot of them don't provide much beyond special teams help in their rookie year. To sit here and jump all over a coach's comment about Pollard helping on STs, made before the guy has even stepped on the practice field, while talking about unreasonable expectations is just fucking absurd.
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